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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 07:25 [#00779446]
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Hiya,
I asked in an earlier post about what the go would be for a beginner to start making music; a few recommended the Oxygen 8 USB Keyboard which looks fucking rad, and seems pretty cheap too from the US sites I've looked at.
I've tried to source one here in Adelaide, but no go, music stores here were absolutely no help at all and tried to flog off a different keyboard to me which doesn't look half as nice (and worked out more expensive).
Either:
1) Somebody in here from AU reads this and knows where I can get one from, or
2) Somebody in here knows of a place in US/UK that will ship it to Australia, reasonably cheaply. This could work out expensive, so the cheaper the price/shipping, the better.
Any suggestions?
Cheers!
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-07-15 07:40 [#00779475]
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me wants Oxygen 8 also, or Ozone which is basicly the same but with built-in audio interface
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-15 07:44 [#00779481]
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ok alberto, thats probably the most scary avatar ive ever seen
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-07-15 07:49 [#00779488]
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it's ren chewing mr horse's leg. a scene from 'Ren Seeks Help' one of the new R&S episodes. CRAZZYYY shit :D
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 07:53 [#00779494]
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haha, yeah, werd to the muthafuckin' avatar or something
herm, i see on the product site (http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/oxygen8.php) there's a link to a product store there, which will ship for $179 US + shipping, which seems damn cheap.
I've found no stores in AU that even stock the thing.
/cry
I want it now ;(
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 07:55 [#00779496]
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i'll add that that store doesn't seem to ship to anything apart from US.
what i'd really like is somebody in AU that stocks it, but herm. as long as i get it...
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Donutman
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-07-15 07:56 [#00779498]
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The music store near me in Perth has it stocked. They're called Kosmic Music. I would like to get it soon. I don't if that's much help for you though.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-07-15 07:58 [#00779500]
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i wanted to order this a while ago...the thing is shipping is almost as much as the keyboard
i'll just wait and try and find it in some store in italy or something
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-15 08:02 [#00779507]
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Check out the Evolution MK range as well...the MK-225c is closest to the Oxygen8 and in my opinion just as good.
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 08:05 [#00779511]
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http://www.evolution.co.uk/moreinfo/hardware/pro25c.htm
Heh, yeah, but is it as cheap?
One thing that made me go WHOA NELLY@!# to the Oxygen was it's price.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-15 08:06 [#00779512]
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Yep it is about the same price if not cheaper :D
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 08:06 [#00779513]
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Donutman: Heh, thanks - maybe they'll send to Adelaide. And yeah, tolstoyed, no kidding, that's why I'm not so sure about importing it. I've tried to import things before and not only is the shipping insane, australian customs are cunts and I'll probably have to pay AGAIN on top.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-15 08:08 [#00779516]
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Is $299.00 Au dollars expensive? I have no idea about exchange rates.
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 08:09 [#00779518]
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http://www.allans.com.au/Products.asp?prod=MK225C
Heh, you're right, it is cheaper.
But is it really as good as the Oxygen? And is it supported under OS X? Another thing that impressed me about the Oxygen was that it's USB interface seemed widely supported, and there were plenty of people that loved it. This doesn't seem to have the same reputation.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-15 08:13 [#00779528]
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As far as I know it is full supported under OS X. It also uses a USB interface so you have no problems there. It doesn't look as pretty as the Oxygen8 but I think the main reason it isn't as well known is because the Oxygen 8 has been heavily promoted by Native Instruments.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-15 08:14 [#00779530]
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I should add that I have an Oxygen 8 and an Evolution MK-249c (the 225's big brother) and I find controller assignment much nicer on the evolution.
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 08:15 [#00779531]
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Reading some reviews now; yeah, it is supported under OS X.
Herm.
http://www.allans.com.au/Products.asp?prod=M249CUSB
That's available for just a bit more - any advantage getting a keyboard with more keys?
Any big disadvantages with having a smaller keyboard?
(Sorry, I know next to nothing about this, want to make sure my purchase is decent).
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-15 08:16 [#00779537]
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If you are using it for live laptop gigs then obviously the smaller the better, but if you have plenty of space I would go for the mk-249c :D
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 08:23 [#00779548]
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heh - i have a powerbook g4. the bigger one has good reviews, and more knobs sounds good, but the smaller one might make me want to carry it around and use it more.
review's seem to point that they aren't as durable as the oxygen's, which seem to be designed for portable use.
hmm. choices.
from a technical perspective of interfacing with programs; what gives more options, the oxygen, or the evolution?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-15 08:25 [#00779550]
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Both basically the same from my experience. I agree the Evolutions seem less designed to be bashed while being carried, but I only carry mine around the house so it's not a problem :P
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 08:26 [#00779553]
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okay, ultimate question really : from a perspective of creating music, is it a pain in the ass having the smaller keyboard?
from a live gig perspective i see the keyboard would be used more as a programmable midi controller?
or am i just confused? :/
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 08:31 [#00779565]
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yeah, see, my choice of having the smaller one over the bigger one will be dertermined solely by the fact i can take it around to some places and not have the thing be bashed to death.
size is therefore an issue too - will it fit into a standardish laptop bag?
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 10:34 [#00779747]
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well, i've decided on the smaller evolution, going to try and buy the bastard tomorrow. bet there's no stock in adelaide, though.
from all the reviews (which are few), there's apparently some problems with the oxygen's, and the evolutions seem to be virtually identical, anyway.
nobody's answered my question on whether a bigger keyboard is substantially better then a smaller one, though, so i'm assuming it isn't a huge deal.
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Spacecadet
on 2003-07-15 10:40 [#00779762]
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maybe hold out till novation bring out thier controller keyboard? but personally i'd get the oxygen 8 or the ozone if your on a laptop
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-15 10:44 [#00779768]
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yeah, i've been looking at the ozone too. any reason why you wouldn't go the evolution?
another problem is I can't find anybody that stocks the oxygen/ozone in AU, apart from a previous post which mentioned some place in perth. importing the bastard'll prove interesting and expensive.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-15 10:49 [#00779782]
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I tried one of the small oxygen keyboards and didn't like the feel. It had a spongy response. I like something with a snappier touch.
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