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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-14 05:53 [#00778049]
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OK, the topic title is deliberately attention-seeking, so I apologise for that.
Basically, I have a track that I have been working on for quite a while, and I can't decide whether it's finished or if it needs more work, so....... I would really value the opinion of people from the messageboard.
It's called "Chimneys (Shinobi Mix)", and it's available here: http://stage.vitaminic.com/manicminer
I'd like to know a) if you think it's finished, b) if you like it, and c) if the answer to (a) is "no", then what should I add/change about the track?
Please take the time to do this. For reasons that I shan't go into it's really important that I finish the track and I am really, really incredibly bad at deciding whether or not my tracks are finished or not.
Cheers in advance.
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uzim
on 2003-07-14 06:05 [#00778060]
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i like it, but i'm not sure it is 'finished'... maybe i'd add more things and enlarge the sound width (eh, it doesn't mean anything probably), i don't know if it's possible i don't know shit about technics of music making °_°
advise from a musicmaker would be more welcome than mine... =)
it's a pleasant listen nonetheless!
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-14 06:08 [#00778063]
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Thanks man.....
In terms of sound "width", that's certainly something that needs finishing. It hasn't been mastered yet, and I am unable to do it until I am back in England. At the moment I am writing music in Lithuania using shitty laptop speakers and some wanky headphones......
Glad you liked it though! What things do you think I need to add? Is it long enough?
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uzim
on 2003-07-14 06:15 [#00778067]
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ok =)
in terms of length, it is good! long enough. what to add... more elements/layers/sounds, i have no clear idea, it all depends on what you want the track to sound like! ' _ '
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-07-14 06:20 [#00778070]
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playing it now
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-07-14 06:26 [#00778073]
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*start mindless comment sequence* hmmm... too much reverb on bass, crank up the mids on it a bit - drums need sharpening - mixing on the little drill bit is great - bass pulse at about 1:10 could use a bit less LP, reverb - maybe a nice hi-hitting lead would really help?part at 2:25 and on it really good - like the little delay youve got there - and the bass riff is nice - but the drums might be mad good if they kicked in shortly after the lead fades away at around 2:48 instead of the longer pause - sysnths are good - nice mix on the reso pad - the drum kick in w/ lead is real good - bits of drill that poke through are like teasing maybe try and get it to come in more? add a little one bar drill fill at the end of a measure maybe?
all in all - great stuff - a few minor changes and that track could rock some serious ass man - good job :)
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-14 06:29 [#00778075]
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Thanks man :)
This is what I'm looking for - I need advice like that. It's so difficult to "hear" what needs changing in a track that you've been working on for ages......
I'll certainly have a fiddle around and implement some of the changes you have suggested, together with those that other board members suggest (please?!)
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-07-14 06:36 [#00778077]
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no prob - i know its what i wanna hear - so i give it :P
i hate it when people say: "oh, its good." and then dont elaborate - or even "it sucks" and dont elaborate.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-14 08:19 [#00778169]
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Any further comments would be gratefully received........ ;)
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-14 08:28 [#00778177]
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hehe, I haven't listened to your track yet but I will later. I have a similar problem right now with a song I'm working on. Perhaps I'll upload it later so you guys can help me too.
*adds to favorits*
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-14 08:38 [#00778193]
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Thanks man :)
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-14 10:42 [#00778362]
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Lots of people have responded to a very similar thread to this started by Zeus, but very few to mine?
Why? It just isn't fair! Is my music really shit or something?
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wilcoooo
from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-07-14 11:11 [#00778426]
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a) + b) and a little bit of c) i think the string could begin earlier about 1:05/10
but i think it's brilliant, *both thumbs up
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-14 11:24 [#00778440]
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Ta!
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-14 11:31 [#00778444]
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Manicminer, I just downloaded Cool Edit Pro and tried to use my headphones as a microphone to record some stuff but it didn't work.
What am I doing wrong?
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-14 11:35 [#00778447]
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you're supposed to sit on them
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2003-07-14 11:40 [#00778455]
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Sorry............ I wouldn't have a clue.
Maybe you need to enable your microphone in the audio settings in the control panel?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-16 21:19 [#00782586]
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Okay I dont think that the track is done yet. I big problem with the ending (besides that it sounds like it just gets cut off) is that -to me- the melodies that you have aren't enough on their own to carry the track from beginning to end. I'd try to add more chord changes and some more melodies. The result would give the track more emotion and a more definitive ending. This is all my opinion of course, but good luck with your song. Cheers.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-16 21:27 [#00782591]
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The track opens up really stongely for me, at 1:50 it sort of becomes mediocre until about 2:50...then...nice tension build-up...drums not bad.
I can't make out whether the melodies are the problem or the synths you have used. It sounds like a modern old school menacing drum and bass track (if that makes sense) but there is just something missing from making it truely menacing.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-16 21:36 [#00782605]
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fuck me i'm dreaming
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-16 21:51 [#00782623]
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yeah i agree, either make it prettier by adding more melodies or make it more dark and menacing. Right now its kinda inbetween the two.
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