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I've wanted to get into creation of electronic music for quite sometime. I played with Mod Tracker (XM/MOD files - imagine MIDI, but also with wav samples) for a while, armed with my mouse, but I never really got anywhere. It was fun, but it all sounded cheesy and awful. I felt I needed some Real Tools. I've got a bit of money/time to play with now; and I'd really like to get into it. Mind you, I know next to fuck all about how to do it. I worked in the production industry as an IT guy for a while (quicktime streaming mainly, had some great times), and I saw/played with plenty of cool stuff, but I'll be stuffed if I can remember what anything was. My memory's like a sieve. (fyi; my drive for this is purely personal interest, probably much like most of you). I've got both a decent PC and a powerbook; but that's it. I'm looking at an initial budget of around $1K; not sure what I should get first. Midi keyboard? Sampler doohicky thingy? Some decent software packages? Would love to hear what people think. |
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i recommend you buy some AKs and go off and shoot some businessmen. Now THAT'S what I call MUSIC. |
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haha, word |
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the oxygen 8 usb keyboard and reason 2.5 for your power book would be a nice start . |
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agreed and it will only cost you around 3-400 hundred i think its PLENTY to start with |
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oo. reason 1 rules, i've seen some damn cool stuff made with it. haven't seen 2 yet; any better? |
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yea and if you found that its not for you then you could cut your losses instead of blowing all your cash and regreting it . |
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yeah reason 2.5, but dont forget sound forge 6.0 the best editing tool about (well for me) there are plenty of demos about to use and plenty of copies floating about to d/l as well :) |
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2.5 is the latest and has more effects and a vocoder! |
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herm, for some reason i thought it cost a shitload. this is 3-400 $US, right? |
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warpphex is your name ian? |
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No its andy why? |
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if your avatar is you you was seperated at birth with my mate (ian) fuck your identical it freaks me to see it |
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reason 2.5 is about £200 whats that in u.s? |
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cool im the warpphex twin! |
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ok, so i was alittle mistaken and they oxygen 8 is like alittle over 100 i believe... |
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my powerbook's an aging 500mhz with 784mb ram, and 20gig hd. its often slow to use at times, that said though, i still <3 it. mac reason any better then the pc version? thinking i should probably stick with pc's for this kind of stuff until i upgrade the powerbook. |
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Instead of buying a cheapo MIDI-only keyboard, look for a Roland Juno 106 or similar synth. That way you get MIDI and an easy to edit synthesizer. The 106 is dated, but it will teach you how basic subtractive synthesis works and you get the most beautiful synth strings and basses from it. It's a very hands-on piece of kit. Every parameter has a slider or knob. Prices on 106 and other Junos go from $150-350-to rip off. -P |
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nice, this is the kind of stuff i want to hear. wonder if i can get it easily here in au? finding specific midi stuff on behalf of other people has proven to be fucking difficult/impossible in the past. |
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Lots of albums have been made on 500 powerbooks, they are up to the job :) |
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reason is a good start but it is 100% better with a usb midi keyboard, like the oxygen8 or evolution ones. perhaps a small behringer ub series mixer for a couple of mic/line inputs and a cheap roland fx unit. heres some links: -look at the smaller units in the dance or dj sections. good ones are the mc09 and the EF303(?) i think. |
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heh, fair enough. i'm currently running 10.3 dev beta on mine, really impressed. it's fast as absolute shit, and fixes some of the annoying bugs that have had me peeved for a while (mainly vpn/finder/samba stuff). what tools to people typically use on powerbooks to make electronic music? i'd figure something like reason, something like protools, anything else? |
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just strip the power books programs and run it lean maybe get osx jaguar because its tweeked for audio |
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heh, why is it better with usb keyboards? or you mean midi keyboards in general? yeah - i had reason 1.0 on my pc for a while. i was going to get a midi keyboard for it, but it never happened; its awful to use without one, so i never really played with it. |
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usb is plug and play really ,good for lappy set ups ;) |
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nice. trying to find a source oxygen 8 usb keyboard in australia now; any other nice keyboards people recommend? something under $1K AU would be decent; i've seen some damn cool units for a few thousand, but not willing to spend that much *yet*. |
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"what tools to people typically use on powerbooks to make electronic music? i'd figure something like reason, something like protools, anything else?" oh god, the list is endless... personally, Im using Logic 6, with the Emagic Synth Collection. Im probanly gonna buy Absynth 2 next week, and Reaktor in the fall. there are shit loads of programs out there... but as a begginer, I wouldnt reccomend much else besides Reason... you dont want to be in too far over your heard. Reason is a great learning tool for begginers, and will last you a long time, as It is also used by more advanced producers as well. You cant beat it for the price. |
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usb keyboards=1 cable only. its powered by the usb bus so high portability and no need for a external power supply. true plug n play, not plug n pray, easier for laptops, since not many have gameports(for midi plug) but do have usb. but any midi keyboard allows you to do things 10x quicker, since if you want to record a simple chord sequence, 50 clicks turns into a couple of clicks, 3 or4 keypresses and done! |
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sounds good. reason's one of those all singing all dancing tools, right? wow, i've heard some fantatic stuff about logic. would love to see it in action. |
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When you grow out of reason you could rewire it to cubase sx , its all good baby! |
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i think if u got the money deffinately invest in a hardware sampler, it'll take alot of strain off your computer, plus, they will NEVER crash, and it does what it says, it doesnt differ unlike computer specs, just an idea |
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mmmm but you can do so much more with softsamplers now... |
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also i'd say dive in the deep end and use cubase sx, anyone with half a brain and can read a manual will have it figured out in a couple of months and in my opinion the results are far far far better than reason/fruity loops etc |
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yeah i depends on your computer spec, with a hardware sampler you get your 128 voice polyphony or whatever, kontakt kills the vst usage, of course you can always mix it down to audio which helps |
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yeah couldnt agree more. if you ever get the money get an akai s5000 or z4 or z8. ive got the s5000 and its solid. never goes wrojng,never crashes, easy to use, as powerful as a pc but streamlined to produce the best fastest audio. the s5000(and larger s6000) have huge screens, so are ideal for spendind hours tweaking. the z4 and z8 have 24/96 and the s5000/6000 are 16/48 but are still the bomb. dont bother with anything other, go with the best. oh dont get roland or emu samplers.go with the akai.2nd hand are good, you can pick them up for about £500 give or take a bit. |
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yeah, and now with the softsynth vst explosion the price of hardware is falling, i recon u can pick up a high end emu or akai for a good price now, if i had the money, i'd use hardware |
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hah, akai > roland/emu? never ever would have guessed that. :) cheers! |
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Well xf its your call really but whatever path you go down be sure to have lots of fun ! ps, can i come and live with you in austrlia the uk is doing my head in .... |
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haha, i'm planning on heading over to the uk early next year, at least for a bit (backpacking or something). why's it doin ya head in? |
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well its all take take take with this contry plus the place where i live is so rundown and i feel so isolated . :( |
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meet up with your twin :p |
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I wanna live in the bush ! I wanna be free! but as long as there is a socket for my computor and free electricity (im not asking for alot really) |
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nothing like sitting in the middle of the desert with your laptop, wireless card, and 1 metre modified sattelite dish |
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yeah your twin is in leeds at moment that not to far plus hes got a girlfriend so you could hook up without her knowin |
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