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uviol
from United States on 2003-07-12 20:54 [#00776375]
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Love to listen to them, love to make em, love to think about them!!
Except I don't have enough. I want to get more. Anyone else feel the same way and have recomendations?
There were loads of them back in the days of classic rock, what with rock operas and all. Pink Floyd and the Who come to mind. They seem to be a bit rarer these days. My interest was re-sparked with the recent nine inch nails topic. kid606's soccergirl EP almost fits the bill, as does so takahashi's 30/30.. but few seem to have the cool narrative quality and thematic consistency.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-12 20:57 [#00776378]
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David Bowies "outside" is a concept album.
hear Bowie's voice through bad filters!!
you might also like to turn your attention to mr. Frank Zappa.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-07-12 21:05 [#00776381]
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deltron 3030
Radiohead's ok computer
both rule
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-12 22:08 [#00776432]
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Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway!!
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uviol
from United States on 2003-07-12 22:50 [#00776463]
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thanks.. will look into these. I have OK computer.. never exactly thought of it as a concept album but I'll go with it. I have never even made it all the way through it anyway, hehehe.
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-07-12 22:58 [#00776469]
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mmmm dunno bit of a "dodgy" concept in itself.
good time to recommend "trout mask replica" by captain beefheart though, i reckon ;)
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uviol
from United States on 2003-07-12 23:03 [#00776473]
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:D !!! :D
I have it and I love it! good call...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-12 23:32 [#00776487]
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I'm not a big fan of them, or the concept of... erm, concepts. Anyone could find a reason to call an album that flows a ''concept'' album... and any album worth your time should flow anyway.
But The Who Sell Out is my favorite ''concept'', like some strange pirate radio station playing awesome (Who) songs, complete with commercial jingles. Beeee-rilliant!
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Job a boj
from Land of the Lost Timezone! (Canada) on 2003-07-12 23:42 [#00776493]
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zappa is nuts, hehe baby snakes.
The Fragile and The Wall are 2 of my favs
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-13 00:46 [#00776518]
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johnny cash - american prayer IV
all covers of his farvorite songs including NIN - Hurt
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-07-13 01:07 [#00776521]
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the residents!
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-07-13 03:16 [#00776529]
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Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
-P
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-13 03:16 [#00776530]
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however good that album is, I wouldn't call that a concept-album though.
I mean, what's the concept.. "do a bunch of songs, a few written myself, mostly covers"..?
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-07-13 03:26 [#00776534]
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GAH! that was what i was gonna say.
so let me name another classic:
queensryche - operation mindcrime
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Spacecadet
on 2003-07-13 03:39 [#00776542]
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woot! troutmask rocks man, fast and bulbous
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-13 04:02 [#00776558]
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our lady peace - spiritual machines
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-13 08:06 [#00776745]
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you're kidding right? That cd sucks ass... it's technically considered a concept album, but I fail to see what it is... well, what I should say is, I fail to see how the songs convey the concept... cause I do kinda know what the concept is supposed to be...
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-07-13 08:13 [#00776754]
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Can someone define a concept album please?
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-13 08:43 [#00776792]
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The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-07-13 10:41 [#00776883]
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a concept album is a pompous way of making an album with each song having the same theme as the next. I hate Them.
Trout Mask and Ok Computer are NOT concept albums.
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uzim
on 2003-07-13 10:52 [#00776892]
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Matmos - A Chance To Cut Is A Chance To Cure
album almost completely made of surgery/medicine/etc. sounds =)
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-13 10:57 [#00776900]
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There are concept albums and there are themed albums.
Concept album: Pink Floyd - The Wall. It tells a story, the lyrics are very important as is the flow.
Themed album: FSOL - Dead Cities. Some of the ideas focussed on degredation of technology, urban decay, etc etc. However, it doesn't tell a story as such... the theme is of the album overall, rather than song to song. OK Computer could also fit in this category, along with a lot of other CDs regularly called Concept Albums.
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-13 11:11 [#00776911]
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herm. thing is, dead cities definitely has a huge flow to it which each song makes up; perhaps it isn't a story, but it definitely is something.
i'd say dead cities is still a concept album; just perhaps with the story not as evident as the wall.
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-13 11:32 [#00776936]
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Oh yes, it has a flow, but I think... each track makes perfect sense on its own, too. It wasn't written as an album (there are a lot of tracks that weren't included), merely many themed pieces on their own. Then the songs were ordered and mixed to make the album work as a whole.
It's a subtle difference, but I think there is one.
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-13 11:38 [#00776941]
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fair enough; i've just listened to parts of the album again and i'll agree with you. each song is very themed, not all directly relating with each other, it's only the actual sound itself which has the flow.
that said though, it's a bloody good flow. fsol - dead cities is one of those albums i've enjoyed in its entirely immensly quite a few times.
now you've got me thinking about downward spiral/fragile from nin.
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welt
on 2003-07-13 12:10 [#00776988]
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what about radiohead's kid a? a concept album for "the generation that will inherit the earth when we've wiped evrything out'" about apocalyptic visions, an orwellian present and future, the fear of globalisation destroying the world, the first cloned child named kid a and so on.
my favourite concept album. and it's the radiohead record where you can hear aphex twin and pink floyd influences the best.
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uzim
on 2003-07-13 12:26 [#00777033]
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where did you find all of this in Kid A (great album, except the last track, btw)?
°_°
=)
i thought i read somewhere the title, 'Kid A', was named after a children's book, Kid A and something about the alphabet...
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welt
on 2003-07-13 12:31 [#00777047]
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uhm. stolen from an interpretation on the internet. http://home.att.ne.jp/air/tony/radiohead/Kid_A_interpretati on.htm
but the thing with the first cloned kid they often said in interviews.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-07-13 12:38 [#00777061]
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did anyone say Dr. Octagon?
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uviol
from United States on 2003-07-14 20:10 [#00779043]
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I'm sorry to bump this.. it's not intentional, I just didn't realize all the replies this got an I wanted to comment.
Purlieu: Actually, I have toyed with this idea myself, you just put it into words for me (thanks!). I hesitated to use the term 'concept album' in reference to certain albums that share more of a theme than a storyline. However, I think you're right in saying that the two terms are often mistaken for synonyms. I myself was convinced I had made up the term 'theme album'.
However, with the idea of a 'concept album,' I think this could be taken one of two or three ways:
1. An album that has a narrative quality (NIN's 'the downward spiral' & the who's 'tommy' or 'quadrophenia')
2. An self-aware album that is about a concept (Jake Mandell's 'Love songs for machines' comes to mind.. or Pram's 'the Museum of Imaginary Animals')
3. An non-self-aware album that is supposed to be a concept in and of itself(Eno's 'Music for Airports' or Raymond Scott's Infant and Baby music.. stuff that serves some utilitarian purpose).
There is probably overlap too. And this is not definitive, just some ideas.
Gonna check out Kid A a little more perhaps..
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-14 20:14 [#00779046]
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Jake Mandell's 'Love songs for machines'
How is that by the way? I've only heard one track and I've been meaning to pick it up or hear more...
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uviol
from United States on 2003-07-14 21:09 [#00779082]
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hey fleet! To be honest, I have only heard one or two tracks myself. It's been on my 'to get' list for a while now also. Sorry! It just popped into my head as a decent example.
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uzim
on 2004-05-27 07:40 [#01210293]
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(hmm, i love the last track of Kid A now as well, it was just harder to get than the other ones =) )
i'm listening to Isis - Oceanic right now. it's a concept album too, about a man drowning... mostly the description/impressions of the drowning and the impressions at the moment of death, not a real "story" with background and all... and lots of instrumental parts too...
really great. (you might need to get used to the voice of the singer though)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-05-27 09:24 [#01210455]
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I'm not that fond of concept albums really... sometimes I feel I have to listen to it from start to finish, and most concept albums have a lot of filler... but themed albums are nice... I like albums that follow a theme...
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 11:20 [#01210666]
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Tool - AEnima. Sountrack of life itself?
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-05-27 13:15 [#01210825]
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I don't normally go for that sort of thing but I really like The Mars Volta's 'De-loused in the Comatorium'.
You could spend a lifetime working out the lyrics.
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uzim
on 2004-05-27 13:30 [#01210880]
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Fernz > Ænima is a great album, sure... but what makes it a concept-album in your view?!
KainiIndustries > i like De-Loused In The Comatorium too, but all these scientific (? ) words in the lyrics are annoying, it makes it look pretentious/geeky (do they all make sense in the lyrics at least??)..; = /
very good album though.
same goes with At The Drive-In - Relationship Of Command (with a bit less scientific words, and even better music imo =))
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-05-27 13:35 [#01210893]
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Liars - They Were Wrong, So We Drowned
fucking grreat. i love concept albums.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-05-27 13:39 [#01210899]
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There's whole forums dedicated to what the lyrics are about. They're wonderfully vague.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-27 14:19 [#01210984]
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Well, my favorite concept album is still The Who Sells Out, and likely always will be. Now I hear loose concepts in everything, the term doesn't hold any water for me anymore. The Kinks did a lot of clever concept work, and backed up the pretention with da hooks.
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