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I saw it in it's entirety for the first time today. I don't get the ending. I understand that the colors and everything when the planets are aligned represent the universe collapsing upon itself (i think). But how do you explain the white room at the end? My theory is that it's the astronaut seeing himself older (guy at table), about to die (in bed), and then reborn (baby). I think when he points to the black box is represents the universe restarting. Is it a big loop of events like Donnie Darko? I'm confused. |
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It's to do with the monolith you see at the begining....like a key... a key that unlocks the next state of being! it was based on a short story, if you read that it makes a bit more sense.. |
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is the short story of the same name as the movie? |
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Yeah, I think the end is a reference to Nietzsche's doctrine of the Eternal Return. There are a lot of references to Nietzsche in this film (the main theme is Also Sprach Zarathustra, for instance). |
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i haven't seen space odissey........but i saw donnie darko.it was shown with subtitles only..... |
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I am ashamed to say i have not seem this film, and i give you full permission to beat me with nasty pointy things in punishment for not doing so. though i like everything else kubrick has done that i've seen, so i doubt it will disappoint. |
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its really cool. long, but worth it. if you sync up the third ping of the pink floyd song echoes to the first frame of the title "jupitar & beyond the infinite" the movie and music match...also worth a watch. |
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2001 : A Space Odyssey is something like my favourite film ever. |
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A Clockwork Orange is one my all-time faves, along with Pulp Fiction, Fight Club, American Beauty, Legend and Akira. |
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the monolith transformed the astronaut into the Star Child who assumes control of the Earth. that journey was his transformation. |
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please do not say 'Donnie Darko' and '2001: A Space Odyssey' in the same sentence. |
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i never saw the whole movie. did that space station really exist in 2001? government conspiracy, maybe? k i'll shuddup now |
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I was younger when I saw it. Isn't the concept behind the monolith on the moon supposed to be that it is a more advanced civilizations way of probing the universe for intelligent life? That is, they are only interested when we actually become interesting i.e. we are able to explore space, so it is like a beacon? I never saw the sequel. There is a sequel, am I correct? |
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2010 is the sequel. Someone once told me that the hidden track on My Red Hot Car is called Hardcore Monolith,and the reason it is 40 minutes into the song is because the monolith was buried 40 feet below |
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Keep watching it every few years until you "get" the ending. |
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i watched this movie in highschool and my teacher fast forwarded the big spaceship flies across space scene. |
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wasn't the monolith an interstellar gateway? so all the coloured stuff is him passing through subspace or whatever you may call it? |
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HA HA HA "boooooring..." whzzzzzzz |
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that's what he said. he thought it might have been a bit more exciting when the movie came out because not everyone had already seen a spaceship fly across space... but then again -- it's kubrick and he's good but he has his dragging points. |
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yeah, donnie darko and 2001 have no similarities that i can think of. but 2010 was really actually pretty decent and not that bad, i reccomend seeing it. the movie is based on the short story called "the sentinel" which then spawned 2001, 2010, 2061 and 3001:the final oddysey, all of which are by arthur c clarke. i have all of them but havent read them yet heh so i cant comment on them. |
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Donnie Darko and 2001 are similiar in the way that both movies have the element of discovering a space-time portal of sorts, that the only real similarity there is me thinks. |
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no theyre not similar, at least not in the way that seems to be portrayed here.. i realy can't be bothered to explain either film thoygh, if you cant work it out then fug u |
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yeah, the only possible similarity is the one I just mentioned |
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if that even |
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theyre both sci-fi, thats probably it. other than that theyre both fucking good movies (and i dont say that lightly) |
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I don't think the point was to see a spaceship fly across space.. more setting the pace, showing how the movements of these huge ships are akin to ballet. I did read "the sentinel" - I can't remember anything about it though. I also read "2001" - a terrible book. really badly written, like a cheap romance novel. |
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Does anybody own the soundtrack? The music that opens the "Jupiter and Beyond" part of the movie, where the "Discovery" slowly zooms by, is MAGICAL! :) |
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im pretty sure the monolith represents a warning from the star child - is that not why whent he ape discovers how to use the bone as a weapon the monolith appears to scare them? ive heard it also symbolizes technological advancement |
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obviously he missed the point. what a fuckin idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Well, I am alone in hating this movie! I thought I'd like it-i'm patient with movies, and also open to anything weird (David Lynch is my favorite director ever)...but this seriously bored it. I got it, but that's not the point-it was definately NOT entertaining. |
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2001 = one of the greatest film accomplishments of all time. something (an alien life) left monoliths at different places to be discovered by man and trigger key advances in the evolution of mankind. the first monolith gave teh monkeys the knowledge to use tools. the 2nd monolith gave man the knowledge to travel great distances in space. the 3rd monolith fast forwarded dave through his own evolution to the ultimate goal of being that starchild baby that you see in the final shot. the colors are the representation of him being fast forwarded. in the room you see him moving thru various stages of his own life at a crazy rapid pace. lots of different things to think about in this film. |
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Yeah they are markers, guiding humanity, hence once man had reached the moon attaining a certain level of evolution they would find the monolith transmitting the signal towards jupiter... |
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Is it entertaining? No. |
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Let's get pedantic : I don't think this film is supposed to be "entertaining". |
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Obviously the film is heavily open to interprettation. However I feel I have a good understanding of the significance of the monolith: A source of infinite knowledge. It appears as a gift, an inspiration to humanity to develop itself. It's appearance; perfection in shape and pure black in colour. It represents death, and also the incomprehensible (arguably this includes death) because man sees no light from a purely black object. It appears at first when the apes seem expectant; it provides a gift and the apes use it for evil, it leads to death. Evolution here perhaps has reached a problem, the apes seek only to propagate their own individual genes and do not seek overal propagation of species. The monolith then dissapears... the transfer of knowledge is complete, or the apes have gained as much knowledge for that time as is useful to them. The second time it appears is on the moon. Men still interact with it like the apes did, human natures has not been advanced and this highlights the danger of the gift. Man assumes it is from a higher lifeform... this is ironic because the monolith is far beyond life and mortality in a way man can't understand. The final time the monolith is shown to mankind is when it shows him infinity. This may be a final chance for man to gain from it, but of course perfect knowledge is beyond his grasp. It could also mean that mankind is finished and is shown infinity as it dies. It is notable that perhaps the best response the monolith had was from apes; has human nature degenerated as knowledge increased? What then happens is very important. Man is put into a room which may represent the finite amount of infinite knowledge that can be comprehended by him. Still he is confused. The universe is not friendly or welcoming to him. It is recognisable to him, at least in comparison to infinity, but he does not feel at home. I'm bored now and the very ending is a lot harder to explain. |
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The room at the end isn't supposed to be taken literally. Its symbolic just like the monolith. I'm glad to see that everyone has come up with their own interpretations as well as understanding the overall message of the movie. Only the greatest movies are able to achieve this and 2001 is definately one of those movies. CS2x: I'm sorry what we're you expecting. This isn't an action film. Its a very relaxing movie that is shown at a very unique perspective. Dialog is sparse but warming orchestrations make up in place of conversation. Visuals are amazing considering it was made in 1968 (coincidentally around the same time the 5 minute attention span started to become popular). :p |
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recall that the monolith also produced radio signals, it was more than a static symbol. perhaps the monolith was an instrument of guidance for the purpose of initiating humankind into a transcendent experience, a redefinition of reality. entertainment is a pleasure, but this film sought to accomplish so much more. to me, it is a cinematic treasure. |
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Another thing, The reason i think the film seems to move slowly is because of one of the many things things they were trying to depict is how lonely and slow space travel is. |
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anyone ever seen 2001 on the big screen? i have the opportunity to see it at an AFI theater this month, i may go. |
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I'd love to do it. The 'space-travel' scene (among other ones) must be much better in the cinema. Go for it. |
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it is essential that you see this film in the cinema. videotape/dvd do not do it justice. |
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One thing i really liked was how there was no sound in space. I hate all those gay movies like Star Wars were there are all sorts of lazer noises, explosions, etc. in space. |
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Saw this movie twice, fell asleep one time and almost asleep the other time (I fast-forwarded during the "20-minute-effects-part" in the end)... This movie is great though... eventhough it represents the evolution theory and some parts of it are way too long... though it does have great music, and very nice camera work. also it's supposed to be beautiful, but I think it looks too stiff/boring/horrible... hope we never get to live in space! but yeah, it's a movie worth watching. |
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i love it, and if you don't, fuck you. it's my house i'll watch it if i want. |
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I like it... it's not just my fav cubberrick movie. |
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what do you mean by "even though it represents the evolution theory"? |
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forget about that... I'm drunk. it's just that I don't like they way it does that. but the movie is a fine one. better than the book (the book explains the stuff more but is boring). |
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heh heh |
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