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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:36 [#00756797]
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or something.
RIAA Goes Bonkers
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 14:39 [#00756800]
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what i want to know is whether or not the riaa is hunting down users who have riaa affiliated music... or if they even care , and it's just about whether or not yoiu have thousands of mp3 files on your pc...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:40 [#00756802]
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probably just RIAA music.
otherwise they probably dont care.. its not their money
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:42 [#00756803]
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those fucking nazis
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diablo
on 2003-06-25 14:42 [#00756806]
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"It's stealing. It's both wrong and illegal," Sherman said.
"Meh mehmeh. Meh meh meh meh mehmehmeh." A Twat, yesterday.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 14:43 [#00756807]
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well in that case i don't give a rat's ass cause i have very little... riaa affiliated music (as in one album: Buck 65's Square)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-06-25 14:48 [#00756812]
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Yes, this will solve all the problems regarding music and technology
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-06-25 14:51 [#00756814]
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The next music p2p services will be completely encrypted and anonymous.
We were raped for so long and now we are fighting back. If we lose a few soldiers in the ground war their sacrifice will not be forgotten and we shall have our revenge on the music industry.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:52 [#00756816]
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hehehe
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-25 14:53 [#00756817]
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when are they going to learn? making mp3s illegal isnt going to deter us.
nor will sueing us.
we have entered a new era... technology. piracy is unavoidable.
they should just reconfigure their game plan to cope with it
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 14:56 [#00756824]
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REMEMBER BRIAN WILSON! REMEMBER BIG RECORD LABELS RAPE ART!
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 15:35 [#00756908]
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i think artists and record labels should get paiid for the hard work they do and i feel that mp3ing is defintley stealing - there is no doubt about that - whatever way is there to look at it ?
but then again prces are too high and choices are too low - we get loadsof crap shoved in our faces whilst small labels who are doing it for love rather than profit loose out masivley -
the riaa only protects the conglomerates who rule the music industry - i'msure they're not going after soulseek who mainly provide mp3's of music from labels who can't afford to loose funds from mp3ing.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 15:36 [#00756909]
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you weren't raped - you had to pay for music you wanted . that's not being raped.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-06-25 15:40 [#00756914]
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how are they going to sue a 15yold for the money they lose what morons ha ha
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Spacecadet
on 2003-06-25 15:43 [#00756921]
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i think with independant music it's important to buy releases so small labels can afford to release more material, in the case of larger record labels (virgin, sony, etc) then fine, they make enough money off timberlake and madonna and the like
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 15:43 [#00756922]
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exactly - they need prevention rather than cure and that might involve putting a bit of effort into the way they market and sell records.
like stop giving wankers like robbie williams 90 million quid so you don't have enuff cash to invest in new exciting bands - for every big rich star offered large amounts of cash thousands of bands loose out on a chance .
its time all thee dinosaurs were pt to sleep really - lazy old fuckers
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 15:44 [#00756925]
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yeah i think you are right there - so many small labels are droppimg off nowdays
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 16:27 [#00756991]
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p2p programs are the best thing to happen to a large amount of smaller labels... the cd and vinyl collections of many, many, many people i know can be attributed to the ability to find and listen to obscure artists online... not to mention the profits (the real profits) these artists make when they come to town...
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 16:46 [#00757007]
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absolutley but the funds to come to town have to come from somewhere and alot of smaller labels especially in the uk rely on stuff like the british council to organise tours for them - if you look in the wire stuff they did like the japonarama tour ages ago and other things are funded by them.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-06-25 16:51 [#00757015]
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So tell me how is ridiculously overpricing CD's not stealing?
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-25 17:08 [#00757047]
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because it's not a dishonest the act of appropriation of property belonging to another with a an intention to deprive another of it - which is the uk definition of theft and through the rules of copyright law is what mp3ing is - hence all that stuff written on cd's.
When you buy a cd none of these things come into effect - you honestly purchase a cd - it's your choice to buy it and your receipt is the binding contract between you and the seller.
i did say that prices were too high though .
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-06-25 17:39 [#00757107]
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Yeah uh, I hate Robbie Willams. But , my dad actually bought his album *sigh*
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2003-06-25 21:35 [#00757290]
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Overpricing CDs is stealing. There was a ruling that decided that. Therefore, everyone who signed up on the settlement's website will be awarded thirteen dollars.
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-06-25 22:37 [#00757329]
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The industry often claims that the mp3'ers are hurting the Artists, but the artists are actually being hurt by the record industry in most cases, with perversely low deals and with ultimatums about the artists image, look, sound...you know what I mean.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-25 22:41 [#00757335]
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the more the mainstream tries to force shameless commercialism down the tubes, the more people will go elsewhere... the reason why sales are lagging is because everyone knows that the only songs they're gonna like are the singles... the rest of the album is filler... until labels start nurturing artists and not bankbooks sales are going to lag, and lag, and lag... boycott the riaa... they've been killing music for far too long...
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Pigfarmer
from Ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-26 03:32 [#00757472]
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I always buy the albums I like cause Im a collector. But I think that the record industry should make their product more attractive instead of whining and sueing. I mean why are all booklets getting smaller all the time? Why are there no lyrics in it? Why is a bonus DVD or something a big exception? In every other industry that its the next logical step to do to win customers back.
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-06-26 03:47 [#00757478]
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Good points, well made...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-26 03:56 [#00757482]
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Pigfarmer is wise- the correct response to P2P networks would be to make the product more desirable, a portion of the profits going to a charity, quality cover art or sleeve notes. Perhaps tokens included in releases redeemable for t-shirts, promotional items, reduced price gig entry- that sort of thing. Alternately masses of information like a DVD full of 320kbps MP3s by an artists which would be impractical to download.
Also they need to grow up- music sharing has been around for years- people have always found new music from tapes given to them by friends etc. the fact it's now done in the digital domain simply makes it easier to monitor.
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