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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-06-24 12:49 [#00755232]
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There seems to be a group of people on this board that do love using fruity loops and the results they get from it and another group says that the sound is bad and that it's just shit.
I wanna know if the ones that dislike floops ever made a decent track with it... or was it all pretty much crap?
Cus this is the way I see it: When I first used floops, everything I made sounded like a big fuck up and the sound quality was really bad. But after a half year of fucking around, I started making decent tunes but still with crappy sound quality. And after another half year of making music that way, I finally managed to create good sound quality. Once you've accomplished that, it'll only go better. Now I can't think of a better program than fruity loops, it's almost perfect imo. You just need to get a good hang on it.
Give it a try!!!
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-24 12:52 [#00755237]
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I'm still using it, i've already got something cool sounding i've only spent an hour with it. I dunno it's just the loops thing annoys me a bit, but 'tis cool 'nuff i guess.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-24 12:58 [#00755250]
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Everything on my site I did with floops. I think floops kinda sucks and it does a lot of wierd things sometimes. I'd rather have a lots of nice hardware and Logic.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-06-24 13:02 [#00755259]
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That would be well nice wouldn't it!
Don't get me started on the wish list thing.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-06-24 13:04 [#00755263]
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I've been using it for almost a year, only just getting somewhere really...
It's all about mimicking Autechre!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-06-24 13:06 [#00755269]
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the reason why i dislike FL now, is that FL4 fucked up my projects for the last 2 years!!! ...so now i can choose between going back to 3.56 or trying something new...
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-06-24 13:10 [#00755275]
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I knew about that, it sucks man :(
Logic is btw indeed a very very nice program, it is one of the main reasons why I want to buy a powerbook.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-24 13:20 [#00755299]
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if you give yo yo ma a cheap cello you bought at a garage sale... he could still make it good.
and if you give some begginer the most expnesive cello in the world... it will still sound bad.
my point is... a program is a tool. People have different tastes.
Personally, I never liked floops. It just wasnt how I liked to work. It doesnt mean anything, except that its just not for ME.
Live and let live.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-06-24 13:28 [#00755309]
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i was using fl for some year , i stopped at 3.3 version i really was angry on this hole pattern making in fl- i just dont like trackers..
....and because of this ahgry feeling i never ended any song in fl - it was allways machine of fum for me, but only for fun , if you know what im talking about; just sit in front of , make some fine sounds , that sall
i dont have fl now im very happy im not angry anymore
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-24 13:33 [#00755319]
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After initally appearing to come across non-partisan, Zeus drops the subliminial bombshell, "Live and let live. "
Obviously a reference to Ableton Live ;P
In all seriousness I agree with you- I bet Aphex and co. could make stuff in floops that would wipe the floor with anything I could do in logic with scores of plugins.
People who make sweeping statments like, "All music made in floops sounds alike" or "Reason is only any good for dance and dnb" probably haven't spent enough time with that program...
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-06-24 13:34 [#00755320]
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well said Zeus.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-06-24 13:35 [#00755323]
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i will be sad if you were talking about me , you know my friend
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-24 13:45 [#00755337]
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No- I wasn't talking about you, whilst I agree that it's easier to make dnb/dance in reason than IDM, it's not impossible- your stuff proves this (made in Reason, right?).
Talking of you though, I saw a news feature on people sneaking into the uk to work under the guise of tourism while I was eating my dinner tonight!
You checked your mail yet? :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-24 13:49 [#00755344]
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*panics... hides his "Ableton Live Official Salesman" buisness card, an high tails it out of dallas!*
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-24 13:51 [#00755350]
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He he- have you used live? Really good for mindless "HDjing" of samples without having to worry about tempo/pitch matching.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-06-24 13:52 [#00755352]
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hey !!!! dnb/dance ????? whoooha !!!! you are really like snake... dnb - welll dance ? DANCE ????
I WILL DIE SOON
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-24 13:55 [#00755358]
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yeah i got a copy of it i messed around with a bit.
my friend loves it for live shows... and he does it well, but i didnt like its layout, and it was somewhat unintuitive...
to really get good results, you gotta map your keyboard keys, and your midi controller... then you can control alot more... but otherwise, its too much for just a mouse.
but setting up the commands was a pain to do as well...
*shrug*
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-24 13:59 [#00755367]
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Erm?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-06-24 14:01 [#00755371]
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wjahhaaaaaaalksd hgaaaaaarmmm uuuaaaaaaarghhhh argh erm bffff uuuuu
boo !!!!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-24 14:11 [#00755386]
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Is this becuase I said I couldn't fit 5 of you in my flat? :(
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-06-24 14:13 [#00755387]
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no i was joking
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-06-24 14:15 [#00755390]
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I agree ceri. Especially what you said about giving it some time. That's the most important thing about making music, take your time to discover.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-06-24 14:37 [#00755420]
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i use live for a majority of my new finished works. i used it when playing live, though, i generally like it for making actual songs.
i just wish it had vsti support. give me some sort of keyboard and vsti, then it will be my favorite thing ever.
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Skeptopotamus
from Home (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-24 15:08 [#00755455]
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The software you use is irrelevent if it produces the sound you want and allows you to express your creativity to it's fullest extent. Simple as that. If Floops does it, then hooray. If Cubase does it, then hooray. If your studio packed with the most expensive equipment does it, then hooray. If your uncle's £5 organ and a pair of spoons do it, then hooray. All that matters is point B, the end product. The route taken to get there has no importance to anyone but the person standing at point A.
Or something.
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