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....WOW.......I'm speechless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Has anyone else seen this amazing documentary??? I'd be interested in hearing what Americans have to say about it. |
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its brilliant isn`t it |
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there's a big ol' thread about it somewhere, started by Titsworth, full of Americans saying things about it. try the search engine..! |
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yeah, what he said |
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thanking you big....... |
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there's quite a few threads on this subject. just type 'bowling' in the search engine and you'll get a lot. |
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pretty good i think |
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i cant wait for his next documentary thats he's working on now. |
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Yeah. Nothing like audio splicing to try to prove his points. Give me a fucking break. |
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I suppose you think your funny for linking me into the middle of that war zone, had to strap on a vest to get out alive.....argumentative feckers! |
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his next documentary explores the links between the bush and bin ladin families. hmmmmmm! now this one might be drawing at straws. |
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"drawing at straws"...........? You mean clutching at straws.....right? ;p |
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Uhhh, not quite. The where did the bush family stay on several occaisions while visiting Saudi Arabia. The Bin Laden palace. |
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yea i know, plus that whole "oil thing" and our funding the taliban during the reagan years. i'm just wondering what point moore is going to make. bush knew about 9/11? he's in cahoots with muslim extremists? obviously not, but what's the point of the film? |
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true |
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time for an avatar change... hmm |
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Ah, here we go. By the way, this is not a picture of myself, but it would be cool if it was |
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who is it? |
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I dunno. |
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yeah, its really good. it gets a little liberally narrowminded but is makes a very intriguing observation as to the reason americans are so gun crazy. i'd like to watch it again |
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the big one is also a good movie of m.moore |
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yeah. the big one is great. as is roger and me. you can download them both from kazaa lite |
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i didnt know he was doing a new documentary, thanks for the info. bfc wa a great documentary, i still need to see the big one and roger and me and read his books. |
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bfc was gun control propoganda. If canada has more guns than the U.S., and 1% of the shootings, why is Michael Moore so rightous to get the bullets out of Kmart? He also made it seem like those gun nut militias are the ones who kill people. How about touch the inner cities because that's where a huge majority of gun homicides occur? Or would you rather stick to "stupid white men"? |
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i haven't seen it yet. are there any more films Moore did? |
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well you know George Bush used to be business partners with Usama bin laden's brother -- probably a lot more that can be researched and explored from there. btw, I heard that 'the USA' changed Usama's name to Osama because Usama has USA in it? anyone verify this? |
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the Bin Ladens are still a business partner with the Carlyle Group, and they have George Bush sr working there and some other known politicians. The Carlyle Group invests in weapon factories. |
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i'd argue that he was ignoring a sector of society (the poorest minorities living in urban areas) because they're conditioned into violence by many factors, whereas upper class citizens, especially whites (who you have to admit have an advantage in society) have no excuse for their violence. totally different situations. |
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yea i know about the business connections between families.. there is a lot to say, but again: what point is moore making? certainly not that the bush family and their allies knew about or took part in the terrorist attacks in 2001? i think a good point to make would be how involved the U.S. has been in promoting terrorism, and this dates back to castro in the '50s at LEAST. (not that castro is a terrorist, but for all our bitching now, we did help get him in power.) plus guatemala, chile, and lots of other countries in central america, south america, the middle east, and probably elsewhere. |
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If you think bowling for Columbine or his other stuff is true facts about the way it is. You are very stupid and gullible. |
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ugh not another moron |
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pretty much sums up what I think of Moore a few months after seeing the movie - he's pretty slimy - |
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It's funny how I liked it at first - a textbook example of overlooking unethical behavior if it suits your political agenda. And in general I agree with where he's coming from on guns and social issues - but why does he have to be such a lying manipulative truth twisting whore? |
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"Typically, you're looking at a week to 10 days waiting period," she says. Ms. Jacobson feels used: "He just portrayed us as backward hicks." Soo? eventho it is a ten days waiting period or whatever it is still fucked up hahahaha!! Buying guns at a bank =) Damn backward hicks!! |
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I can see your point & I can believe some of it but people are obviously going to try to cover up stuff after they've been cought out....................*wonders off very confused about the whole thing* |
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The right wing forcess work hard now on repearing the damage he has caused. Seriously , it wouldn't surprice me if Michael Moore got murdered one day , scary thought =( |
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Well the whole thing where he's waving the dead kid's picture at Charlton Heston reminded me of nothing so much as the lunatics with bottled fetuses protesting at abortion clinics. Sanctity of life my ass, right, when you can wave a dead baby in someone's face to get your way by emotional manipulation. Won't someone please think of the children - and how their corpses can be used to our advantage - I mean, if you want my respect, you are going to have to have higher ethical standards than Rush Limbaugh and that whole gang of dickpenises. |
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Yeah, some NRA guys actually hacked his site a while back, posted some American flag and a link to an article similar to the ones below. So much for free speech...seems a little hypocritcal? hmm. |
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Yeah, some NRA guys actually hacked his site a while back, posted some American flag and a link to an article similar to the ones below. So much for free speech...seems a little hypocritcal? hmm. |
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Yeah titsworth. Let's see you use facts to back up your standpoint instead of saying 'not another moron.' You aren't scoring very high on the IQ chart are you? |
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So what is your standpoint aperson ? Michael Moore is evil ? I don't care HOW he does it if you know what i mean. He is doing good with his books movies and tv shows. So what if he bends the truth a little bit , atleast he is doing something. |
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And if his lying damages the political position you support, you're okay with that? |
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Yeah but it doesn't , so im happy. |
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just a little point to make. if the right-wing are so correct on everything then why are they paranoid at what Michael Moore is exposing. I mean, if they are so CORRECT then surely they have nothing to worry about, right? Or maybe they are scared that their totalitarian thinking is being exposed and people are sick and fed up of downsizing, of capitalism etc. I can't believe people even defend facist bastards. |
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ironically, intellectual types are just as easily fooled by right wing smear campaigns. just look at aperson and fleetmouse, the poor saps. me, i'm going to keep reading my moore, chomsky, nader, etc. |
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The extremist right, as do the extremist left, try to censor any view that they do not agree with. This is in no way what I am attempting to do. I am just showing you how this 'documentary' can only be taken at face value, nothing more. It's hard to believe someone who uses subterfuge like posted in my above link. |
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how did you show us anything? what kind of research did you do? cos you found some conversative columnist's essay on why BFC sux0rZ it MUST be true? like they don't have an AGENDA? if you can come up with your own, independently varified (as in, hard proof) why this movie is "fake" i'll be persuaded. i am NOT impressed by smear campaigns and i've yet to see a compelling argument against the film and filmmaker i seem to understand a lot better than most of you critics. it's documentary and comedy and they don't cancel each other out. life is funny, but not ha-ha funny (c) the eels. |
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Wait, so if it's not some indy-source that you seem to stick to it's not true. If you say the link I posted is fake, then how can you say that Bowling for Columbine is also not fake? |
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i didn't say "indy source", i said do your own research. proof why it's fake, don't just link some article. what proof do you have the article isn't what i say it is? |
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