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Do you believe ? and if , thyen why? i believe... |
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Seeing is believing... :-) |
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have you seen ? |
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no i haven't, so i don not believe i do believe that there must be something otu there, but im not sure what |
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Yes, but not up close... |
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i havent |
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I've gotta go now, maybe I'll tell you about it another time... :-) |
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do i belive there have been unidentified flying objects? certainly. do i belive they are visitors from another planet? no. why? Well after studying physics and astronomy at the U.W. (intro level so i'm no expert) i learned a profound appreciation for the insignificant size of our planet compared to the universe. but more importantly, the insignificant amount of time, compared to the age of the universe, that humans have existed on our planet. if the universe is 10-15 billion years old. all critters in the universe have had a relatively equal amount of time to evolve. for a species to evolve to a point that they could achieve inter-galactic travel, their evolution would have to have either had a massive head start on ours or had some reason for it to be exponentially more advanced. added to that, it would be a remarkable coincidence for them to travel to earth and arrive here when there were actually humans here to encounter them. Recorded human history is only about what 10,000 years old tops? this is a blink of the eye when compared to the age of the universe. an alien species finding our small planet in that time frame would be like bumping into an specific, individual grain of sand in the middle of the sahara desert. quite unlikely i believe. though not impossibe i will admit, as a gambler and poker player, these are not very good implied odds. i would have to fold this hand. |
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^^^ agreed. i certainly don't believe we are the only intelligent life in the universe, but, as to whether we're being visited by life from elsewhere... i'm very skeptical. |
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some aliens are regular on these parties nowadays... or maybe its got something to do with depleted uranium |
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fuck reading all that! I believe in UFo, the metal band with Michael Shcenker |
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a much more believable theory: these short statured creatures with the big eyes are just super evolved humans. their bodies have de-evolved while their brains have progressed as a result of their machine dependence in the distant future. their flying saucers are really just time machines. it makes more sense becuase it would then explain how they knew where and when to look for humans here in our universe; they've kept good records of our history. they try to remain more or less undetected because they don't want to adversely affect the space time continuum by interacting arbitrarily with present day man. They can afford to be spotted now and then because they are so advanced, we only see them as aliens anyway. but i don't really believe that theory anyway. most UFO sitings are probably just the result of alcohol abuse. |
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evolume... We live in a galaxy with roughly 300 billion stars, many of which are like our own sun. Some are older and some are younger. Lets say a humanoid species developed around one of those billions of stars, perhaps 1 billion years ago, and that they didn't nuke themselves right off, and that they evolved continuosly up til this day... What would they be capable of? We can already detect planets around distant suns (not visually yet, but it's a matter of a few years now til we do) - wouldn't it be plausible that they could pretty much search through the galactic neighborhood with pretty high resolution feedback? That they could perhaps detect planets with life (even "simple" forms of life)? To me it doesn't seem that strange, but I'm still pretty sceptical about the whole idea of aliens watching us...and I probably will be until the day they (if they're here) reveal themselves. Who's to say that they haven't been here since long before humans developed? Maybe they don't think of us as something very much more special than anything else that lives here... Anyway... U.F.O.'s - in their true meaning (unidentified thingys) - DO exist and they've been reported for hundreds of years and probably before that, now is the time to start funding this line of science and try to figure out what they really are. |
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i agree with some of that. but finding one planet, earth, out of 300 billion possible solar systems seems extremely unlikely. especially because, you must consider that when we are detecting planets around a star, we are doing so using radiation that left those planets millions of lightyears ago. Even if a species had the capacity to detect planets or even life on planets at a high efficiency, they would be doing so at a delay of millions of light years. so, not only do they have to sort through billions of possible star systems for candidate planets, they also have to compensate for the time it took for light or radiation to leave our system, travel accross the galaxy, and eventually be detected by their instruments. If they were, at this very moment, visualizing our planet with their high tech instruments, they would actually be visualizing what our planet looked like many millions of years ago, long before humans were here. all this adds up to a very unlikely possibility of them even knowing we're here. |
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"If they were, at this very moment, visualizing our planet with their high tech instruments, they would actually be visualizing what our planet looked like many millions of years ago, long before humans were here." - Provided that they reside many millions of lightyears away : ) Yeah, that is one "problem" but I don't think that we should let our current view the nature and the laws ruling it be this limited. I believe the whole lightspeed limit issue is just another mindblock to be overcome in centuries that follows, if we manage to keep our finger off the nuke button. Once upon a time the Earth was flat and the center of all things...that was a few hundred years ago. In a few hundred more, where do we place ourselves then? |
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i agree its possible. just extremely unlikely. |
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then we probably agree : ) |
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There's always Zecharia Sitchin's theories... which, while outlandish, have an undeniable appeal, especially when you read his actual books. He's a convincing fellow, most of the time. Look him up, but the gist of it is a 10th planet that's in an elliptical orbit making it's "year" around the sun around 3600 earth years. An intelligent race on this planet jump-started human life by crossbreeding their DNA with ours... and all of this stuff is told in the ancient Sumerian's written histories and tablets. Ok, that's a big gist, and probably makes you think its all bullshit, but read "Genesis Revisited" by him (a nice summation of a 5 books series he wrote on the subject) and tell me you don't consider it a possibility. |
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Wonder if it's published in swedish... Not that I'm gonna buy it but maybe check the local library, which is a small one. |
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oh my god , i love your avatar!!! |
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What's your avatar? |
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im sure it's an interesting book but well,, i just don't like reading alert me when the movie comes out. |
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i work with something thats not from this planet,but it drives a car not a ufo. |
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