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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 12:34 [#00725623]
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so, i'm have been making music on my pc for about 1 year now, and i really wanna spend some money on a neat midi interface.
i searched the net today for midi controllers, but i couldn't found anything really useful. i don't even know how much a simple controller costs.
i would want to have one with about 10 knobs and 5 sliders. that would be okay.
i even thought about making one myself, but www.ucapps.com is a bit difficult for me. maybe there are some other sites?
so, tell me everything you can about midi controllers. prices, sites, links or e-mails where i can ask for help.
thank you very much
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-03 12:38 [#00725634]
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i second his motion; i too would enjoy some info on midi.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 12:41 [#00725641]
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thanks. maybe at making a song, this isn't so important. but i played with ableton live today, and it's nearly impossible to change all options in so short time with a mouse !
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nocturne
from Montreal (Canada) on 2003-06-03 12:43 [#00725649]
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try the midiman
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more10
from Lkpg (Sweden) on 2003-06-03 12:45 [#00725655]
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M-Audio Radium 49/61 has 8 knobs and 8 sliders. click here
Edirol PCR30/50 have 8 of each too (I think). click here
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 12:47 [#00725659]
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link ?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-06-03 12:49 [#00725663]
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all i want is a midi merging box
thats all!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 12:50 [#00725664]
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oh, i didn't add an important thing ! midi keyboards can be posted too, but i want a midi knob box like the phat boy !!
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more10
from Lkpg (Sweden) on 2003-06-03 12:53 [#00725669]
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Argh! ;) Well in that case I think Doepfer make great gear like Pocket Control (16 knobs) and Pocket Fader (16 faders).
try www.doepfer.de
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2003-06-03 12:54 [#00725670]
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i've never seen a midi knob box that comes equipped with sliders. Do they exist? I second the Midiman Radium. Eight knobs, eight sliders, USB = no pesky power cables.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-03 12:57 [#00725675]
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i'm looking at the korg microKORG, and it's a neat little synth, but can be used as a midi controller as well. probably not the same but i thought i'd throw it out
microKORG
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 12:57 [#00725676]
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link ??
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2003-06-03 12:58 [#00725677]
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just checked out the doepfer products. pretty cool stuff. hadn't heard of them way out here.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-06-03 13:00 [#00725679]
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yeah also the mackie control surfaces are good, with lots of DAW integration. I use the evolution MK249C midi keyboard with about a dozen assignable pots, which was cheap and is also a keyboard! ive been using pcs for a while and i have to that a hardware midi interface is a must. for all the advantages of software, id much rather have real hardware, purely for tweakability and routing possibilities.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-03 13:04 [#00725686]
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sadist: are the links not coming up on your comp? they work for me
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 13:04 [#00725688]
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216 euro for 16 sliders !!! ARGHHHH
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 13:07 [#00725692]
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i wanted a link to midiman
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-03 13:11 [#00725696]
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whoops sorry, didn't see the part that said "followup"
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 13:26 [#00725720]
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could anyone post it ?? the link to midiman ?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-03 13:31 [#00725728]
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I use a Phatboy. No longer the best budget one, but very robust and I'm happy with it. I'll probably get a controller keyboard with a few knobs on it at some point and use both at once.
more10: You have no idea how much I wanted the drehbank :)
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more10
from Lkpg (Sweden) on 2003-06-03 13:36 [#00725735]
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Theres a french made controller for rack with 8 faders and 24 knobs...I'll see if I can find it
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-06-03 13:40 [#00725740]
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save yourself the hassle of this and just buy a 16 channel mixer and about 4 soundcards or just get a pci adat card and a digital mixer with adat inputs. 1 fibre optic cable carries 8 audio data streams. pricey though:)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 13:41 [#00725742]
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indeed pricey
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-03 13:50 [#00725760]
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get midiman OXYGEN 8 or the new OZONE which has addititional built-in audio interface
they both have 25 note keys, 8 MIDI assignable knobs and 1 assignable slider, a pitch bend weel and a modilation wheel
for more midiman keyboards check out:
http://www.m-audio.com/products/midiman/keystations.php
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-06-03 13:51 [#00725761]
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herbwest! can you get me a phat discount on that?
ska
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-03 13:51 [#00725762]
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oh yeah, and you won't need to buy a midi interface 'cause they are connected via USB
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Mateo
from Poland on 2003-06-03 13:59 [#00725773]
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Yo³ Sadist....
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Mateo
from Poland on 2003-06-03 14:01 [#00725776]
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no
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 14:12 [#00725790]
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could you please concentrate on midi boxes ? not keyboards ?? :)
yeah, hi mateo
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-03 14:15 [#00725792]
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what?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 14:15 [#00725793]
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i mean like the phat boy. such boxes with knobs and sliders. without the piano...
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-03 14:17 [#00725795]
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oh ok. never seen one
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-03 14:43 [#00725818]
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I'm about to order one of these...
Novation Remote25
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 14:54 [#00725827]
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oh that's a massive thing
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 15:17 [#00725838]
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could someone else help ?
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-03 15:29 [#00725842]
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This thing is interesting...
ULTIMATE MIDI CONTROLLER
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-03 15:30 [#00725843]
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Article on Kenton spin doctor...
Kenton review
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-03 15:32 [#00725845]
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This is what I was looking for... I think this is exactly what you want, I'm going to pick up one pretty soon myself
Evolution U-controller
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-03 15:35 [#00725847]
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This is the larger one I was looking at, but don't want to spend for something that isn't easily portable
Waveidea Bitstream Pro
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 15:37 [#00725848]
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hey ! pretty much info.... thanks dood !!
does anybody know a site besides the www.ucapps.de with tutorials how to build a controller at home ??
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-03 15:43 [#00725852]
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This thing is specifically made for gamers, but I think this is the other thing I want to use for live stuff...
Belkin Speedpad
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-03 15:46 [#00725855]
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That's all I could find off the top of my head... I know there's a really cool mouse type thing that has 2 programmable jog wheels and a handful of buttons which you could use
Making MIDI controllers... rawr... I know there's a company that offers packages to build your own, I'm taking an electronics course next quarter to learn how to do stuff like that, maybe I'll put up a guide or something for Xltronic
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 15:50 [#00725856]
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cool. that would be great.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-03 16:21 [#00725871]
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can anyone else add something ?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-06-03 19:54 [#00726075]
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anyone know anything bout midiman ozone - ie. if its very good. coz it looks fab on paper. ?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-04 13:27 [#00726917]
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i want to make one of those midiboxes from ucapps. but i have a problem and i cna't find an answer on their or another site.
actually, what is this lcd display and all the funtions for ? i mean, when i use fruity or ableton i bind every knob in the software to a funstion. so what are all these :banks" they talk about ??
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-06-04 13:51 [#00726939]
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come on. there are a few people here who know that for sure.
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