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No, not The Matrix ones... It seems to me that every day we hear of more freedoms being taken away by governments (supposedly for our own good), mounting governmental disregard for their electorates, a steady drift towards the bland political centre by mainstream parties and the seeming never-ending transfer of everything to corporate ownership and control. We haven't seen the full consequences of all this yet, but one thing seems certain, it isn't going to get any better. Given this, do you think it conceivable that somewhere along the line, in the next 10, 20, 30 years we could see another surge of revolutions such as those at the beginning of the 20th century? Do you think a little revolution every now and again is a good thing? |
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As technology and population control techniques improve, I believe revolution in the traditional sense will become almost impossible. |
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At the rate humans are going now, education will be shit and although smart people will still be around, there wont be enough of them to start a revolution. So in conclusion: the revolution will be led by a giant meteor from space. |
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I think when Milosovich and his regim where thrown out it looked like a classic revolution. The people couldn't take it anymore. I get goosebumps when i watch the footage. Here in sweden we have this massive comunal strike at the moment , and i guess thats a form of revolution ? |
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Read 'Industrial Society And It's Future' by the Unibomber. He may have upset a few people with his campaign of bombing but his essay is enlightening. |
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Is that differnet to his manifesto or is that just an alternate title? His writing certainly makes for interesting reading. |
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Yeah, that's the title of the manifesto. You've read it? I printed it up and made a little book out of it. |
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Yep, good read. He seemed like a bit of an oddball in real life (aside form blowing things up) if the accounts about him are true. |
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it will eventually be one bunch of humans against another...much like in Stephen King's The Stand. And that will be last revolution of them all. Who wins of course is debatable...but I do believe that revolution is inevitable. We are headed for one. And it is good for the system in many ways. |
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I think it'd be triggered by bioterrorism/ a biological catastrophe or something quite sci-fi rather than a traditional "overthrow the ruling classes" of days gone by. |
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i think it got triggered already |
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it's the scars that trigger this fear |
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Revolution #9... play it backwards :-/ |
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There have been quite a lot of revolutions in the past 100 years if you look at the trajectory of human history. I believe a revolution is the only way we can put an end to the current system of war and exploitation. The scope for change can be seen in Argentina where people have set up their own democratic forms of organisation set apart from liberal democracy. The extension of these organisations is the only real alternative to what we have in most of the devloped world. |
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hmmm i just read that essay by the unibomber... i've had some of those thoughts myself...... that we have no freedom at all in modern society....the problem is how could the world suddenly lose all technology.... |
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The world wont be rid of all the technology that's been produced - you can't put the genie back in the bottle. However, as society becomes more and more monolithic and dependent on technology to fucntion then society becomes susceptible to forces that may see the whole house of cards crumble -- a kinda 'Achilles Heel' scenario. Whether that may come from an uprising of the people is debateable. More likely is a lack of resorces to fuel an ever growing global industrial economy; conflict over resources; ecological collapse from resource use etc., etc. I don't agree with the Unibomber that we need to go back to nature to ensure the survival of the species, but I do believe that we'll be living something like they did in the 17thCentury within 2 or 3 generations. Industrial society is inherently usustainable. |
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"Industrial society is inherently usustainable." Until we develop nanobots :D |
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Nanobot? I thought that was my Grandma's arse. That reminded me... didn't Prince Charles, in a speech the other week, say that he feared nanotechnology would turn the world into a grey soup or something? |
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Technology isn't the problem IMHO, its how its used. Take GM food. Its not its development that's bad but the undemocratic way it is used to create profits rather than meet human needs. Democratizing the system would deal with the problem at its root. |
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(many of us americans at least) |
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