Do you believe in karma? | xltronic messageboard
 
You are not logged in!

F.A.Q
Log in

Register
  
 
  
 
(nobody)
...and 530 guests

Last 5 registered
Oplandisks
nothingstar
N_loop
yipe
foxtrotromeo

Browse members...
  
 
Members 8025
Messages 2614201
Today 5
Topics 127548
  
 
Messageboard index
Do you believe in karma?
 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-05-27 20:22 [#00717332]
Points: 1121 Status: Regular



what does everyone think about karma?

i sometimes feel guilty doing things and feel that a lot of
bad things that happen to me are a result of bad karma..



 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-05-27 20:28 [#00717333]
Points: 7983 Status: Lurker



i wont go as far as to say that every bad thing that happens
to someone, happens for a reason. there is a lot of unfair
things that can happen.

but i think its important for one to live their life
virtuously.

if a person doesnt then they can expect to pay their dues in
some manner.

thats life!


 

offline bjg from Adelaide (Australia) on 2003-05-27 20:31 [#00717335]
Points: 203 Status: Regular



I agree with rockenjohnny.

I don't actually believe that it's something paranormal, but
i do think it should be applied in life.


 

offline xceque on 2003-05-27 20:50 [#00717351]
Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag



If every bad thing that happened to someone happened because
they deserved it, we'd all be the children of satan. So I
don't think our life is predestined.

Choices you make, which are part of the nature of who you
have become through previous choices, influence your future.
So in that respect the older you get the more your future
will follow a trend, but that doesn't make it impossible to
change it, or have it changed for you.
Mind you, the people who influence you are often chosen by
you, with or without conscious thought about it, so that
makes things less flexible.

Well, it's late so this probably makes no sense. I have
trouble turning thoughts into words when I'm going through a
bout of insomnia.


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2003-05-27 21:13 [#00717369]
Points: 1129 Status: Regular



Looks at George W. Bush, Bill gates and the owners of the
megacorporations...

Then looks at Jesus Christ and Socrates...

Umh no I don`t believe in karma....

I agree with exceque


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-27 22:02 [#00717427]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker



The universe is balanced, to do negative acts will place you
closer to the negative half of the karma circle - resulting
in higher chances of recieving negative karma in return.


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-27 22:15 [#00717436]
Points: 1062 Status: Lurker



meh. it's all advertising.


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-05-27 22:41 [#00717462]
Points: 1121 Status: Regular



i guess also its your/my perspective on things, if you jsut
focus on the negative aspect of a situation it seems that it
is a result of "bad karma" , i guess you can be 100% pure
and bad things can till occur its inevitable.. who knows,
not me


 

offline steve from chicago on 2003-05-27 23:09 [#00717469]
Points: 1156 Status: Lurker



Yes.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-27 23:36 [#00717480]
Points: 8249 Status: Lurker



interesting question.......

what i do believe is 'what comes around goes around' is that
karma......dunno.....but it always comes to pass.....so i
bide my time, knowing in the end some peepz will get their
just desserts.....=0) it sometimes helps me to tolerate
things more, so it's a good thing.

kinda like the 'golden rule' which i believe has origins in
the Bible.....for those that believe (like me) it's a
comfort, for those that don't .....ignore it.......ehehhe


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-27 23:48 [#00717489]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker



I don't strictly believe in karma. But if you look at the
summation of events in a system, it is probably very similar
to a chaotic equation: very small changes in initial
conditions will propogate to produce large differences in
the results: i.e. the realization "it is possible for a
butterfly flapping its wings in the amazon to cause a
hurricaine over the atlantic"
I don't think of it in a spiritual concept, just common
sense, and not an absolute rule.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-05-28 00:35 [#00717509]
Points: 8984 Status: Lurker



umm

not sure, i'll have to browse through the Vedic scriptures
and then i'll let ya know what i think.


 

offline orangeboy from brizzle (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-28 03:46 [#00717627]
Points: 24 Status: Lurker




if you believe in karma then you're likely to believe in
reincarnation - therefore to expect a "good" or "bad" act to
be repaid in one of what could quite likely be thousands of
lifetimes is a little unlikely, no?


 

offline 777 from Oulu (Finland) on 2003-05-28 03:50 [#00717630]
Points: 167 Status: Lurker



i'm an atheist so no. but i do believe in karma police by
radiohead.


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-05-28 03:54 [#00717634]
Points: 9939 Status: Regular



i definatelly dont beleive in reincarnation or zen or chi
energy etc. but karma....i have noticed bad things happen
closelly after good things happen or visa versa....i dont
think its a punishment its just like a balance, you hvae to
have bad and good....


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-28 04:39 [#00717687]
Points: 5696 Status: Lurker



yep.. for me its a what-goes-around, comes-around thing too.
It´s a case of: if you do something "bad" (ie you know its
wrong but do it anyway), it willl come back to haunt you by
your own subconcious actions. As for pre-determined destiny?
Nope! But very intuitive people can reliably predict the
path most people will take, in general.

Human nature is all powerfull andinescapable... just love
each other and forget about the whole Christian God thing...
embrace the universe instead


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-05-28 04:46 [#00717688]
Points: 11496 Status: Lurker



Again "What goes around, comes around" I tend to agree with
that. I'd like to think that by treating people nicely,
that they'd do the same in return! We don't have absolute
control over certain things...so there is always going to be
an element of bad karma in our lives


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2003-05-28 04:52 [#00717690]
Points: 1129 Status: Regular



I just see it as something people invented to see a sense of
justice in the world; where actually the only law that
exists is that the strongest wins...

But hey if you like believing it keep doing it an be
happy...


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-28 05:11 [#00717700]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker



I dont believe in karma


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 06:56 [#00717808]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular



I believe that what "comes around goes around" will come
around and go around wether it goes or comes. Make sense?

Don't believe in Karma. And I really dislike it when people
resist doing something because they are afraid of Karma. If
you don't want to do something, don't do it cause it's wrong
(to you) not because you're scared something bad will happen
to you. That just sounds like a mixed up conscious to me.
It's weak.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 07:13 [#00717839]
Points: 24591 Status: Lurker



karma can be transcended.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-28 07:25 [#00717879]
Points: 5696 Status: Lurker



For me Karma is not something outside of my ciontrol or a
predestiny or something... its just the idea that you don´t
do something to someone that you would not let them do to
you. It s saying that negativie actions leads to further
negativity.
I see it as a conceptualistion of "doing the right thing"
rather than anything externally spiritual. Its a nice idea,
in other words, and a handy tool - nothing more


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-28 08:07 [#00717990]
Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag



No. I've been a good, good boy, no drugs, no alcohol, church
every Sunday, yet nothing good ever happens to me. I'm
ready to pack it in and start killing my way to the top.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-05-28 10:30 [#00718180]
Points: 2901 Status: Lurker



you don't have to believe in it, because it's just there.
Action=reaction, simple as that.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-28 11:52 [#00718251]
Points: 5678 Status: Lurker



misunderstanding is one thing, but misunderstanding a
misunderstanding is quite another.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 11:53 [#00718254]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular | Followup to X-tomatic: #00718180



action reaction isn't karma

Every action you do has some form of reaction. That's not
the meaning of karma.


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-05-28 12:23 [#00718302]
Points: 1121 Status: Regular | Followup to corrupted-girl: #00718254



maybe its just a rational way of explaing karma instead of
the whole "law of karma" theory


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-05-28 13:04 [#00718345]
Points: 2901 Status: Lurker | Followup to corrupted-girl: #00718254



haha, plz don't try to tell me about karma missy. Karma is
basically to act, so yes action=reaction is a part of that.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-05-28 13:09 [#00718355]
Points: 8603 Status: Lurker



karmacoma!


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 14:32 [#00718418]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular | Followup to X-tomatic: #00718345



Well I don't see it as that mister...

Action = reaction is more like .. i smoke this joint as my
action, then the reaction is me getting high.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-28 14:37 [#00718424]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular



i believe in the law of averages.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-28 14:55 [#00718446]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



i dont think that if you are evil, karma will make an
airplane crash into your house... or some random event that
is uncontrolable

but if you are a dick to people... those people wont be nice
back.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 14:56 [#00718447]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular



There are consciquences to your actions, yes. but "good" and
"bad" things happen to everyone, regardless...


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-05-28 14:57 [#00718450]
Points: 12687 Status: Lurker



I think if you feel bad about doing/saying/etc something,
then you're more inclined to let bad things come your way
cause you feel like you deserve it.


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-28 14:58 [#00718454]
Points: 4570 Status: Lurker



I believe in the Tao.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 14:59 [#00718456]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular | Followup to pOgO: #00718450



yess, very true...


 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-28 15:56 [#00718561]
Points: 1620 Status: Lurker



i jump-started my karma


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-05-28 17:24 [#00718671]
Points: 2901 Status: Lurker | Followup to corrupted-girl: #00718418



a small facet of the huge thing that is action=reaction


 

offline Quatch from ROFLOMGOMGOMG on 2003-05-28 18:03 [#00718719]
Points: 189 Status: Addict



i know karma works for me.

if i do nothing, my life looks like a sinewave, having
constant rises and falls.

when i do something creative, i manage to keep it above the
line of zero.

if i screw things up, i get a downtime.


 

offline xceque on 2003-05-28 18:40 [#00718738]
Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag



Karma is not cause and effect, karma is the idea that cause
and effect lead on one from another without any room for
flexibility, that each effect is triggered by each cause in
a way that's unchangeable and predestined. It's religious
predestination in it's most blinkered form.

As I said before, events do operate around the laws of cause
and effect, and it's easy to say "but that would have
happened that way anyway" no matter what did happen. So in
the end, it makes little difference what you believe. Just
live your life and believe you can make a difference. If you
give in to the belief that you can't change anything, you
become apathetic and then you really will lose control of
your life, just letting it go past you without interest.
That's no life.


 

offline Quatch from ROFLOMGOMGOMG on 2003-05-28 18:58 [#00718762]
Points: 189 Status: Addict | Followup to xceque: #00718738



Karma is not cause and effect

depends on what sources you use


 

offline xceque on 2003-05-28 19:01 [#00718767]
Points: 5888 Status: Moderator | Followup to Quatch: #00718762 | Show recordbag



Yeah, it's cause and effect if you use inaccurate sources.


 

offline Quatch from ROFLOMGOMGOMG on 2003-05-28 19:26 [#00718852]
Points: 189 Status: Addict | Followup to xceque: #00718767



do you understand why i consider asm sources the most
inaccurate?


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-05-28 19:28 [#00718859]
Points: 2901 Status: Lurker | Followup to xceque: #00718738



no its not. Unless you consider the very source where karma
has originated from inaccurate, now stfu


 

offline regital from Baltimore (United States) on 2003-05-28 22:49 [#00719072]
Points: 800 Status: Lurker



no


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-05-28 23:06 [#00719090]
Points: 1121 Status: Regular | Followup to xceque: #00718738



true, good point


 


Messageboard index