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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-05-27 20:22 [#00717332]
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what does everyone think about karma?
i sometimes feel guilty doing things and feel that a lot of bad things that happen to me are a result of bad karma..
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-05-27 20:28 [#00717333]
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i wont go as far as to say that every bad thing that happens to someone, happens for a reason. there is a lot of unfair things that can happen.
but i think its important for one to live their life virtuously.
if a person doesnt then they can expect to pay their dues in some manner.
thats life!
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bjg
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2003-05-27 20:31 [#00717335]
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I agree with rockenjohnny.
I don't actually believe that it's something paranormal, but i do think it should be applied in life.
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xceque
on 2003-05-27 20:50 [#00717351]
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If every bad thing that happened to someone happened because they deserved it, we'd all be the children of satan. So I don't think our life is predestined.
Choices you make, which are part of the nature of who you have become through previous choices, influence your future. So in that respect the older you get the more your future will follow a trend, but that doesn't make it impossible to change it, or have it changed for you.
Mind you, the people who influence you are often chosen by you, with or without conscious thought about it, so that makes things less flexible.
Well, it's late so this probably makes no sense. I have trouble turning thoughts into words when I'm going through a bout of insomnia.
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2003-05-27 21:13 [#00717369]
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Looks at George W. Bush, Bill gates and the owners of the megacorporations...
Then looks at Jesus Christ and Socrates...
Umh no I don`t believe in karma....
I agree with exceque
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-27 22:02 [#00717427]
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The universe is balanced, to do negative acts will place you closer to the negative half of the karma circle - resulting in higher chances of recieving negative karma in return.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-27 22:15 [#00717436]
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meh. it's all advertising.
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-05-27 22:41 [#00717462]
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i guess also its your/my perspective on things, if you jsut focus on the negative aspect of a situation it seems that it is a result of "bad karma" , i guess you can be 100% pure and bad things can till occur its inevitable.. who knows, not me
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steve
from chicago on 2003-05-27 23:09 [#00717469]
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Yes.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-27 23:36 [#00717480]
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interesting question.......
what i do believe is 'what comes around goes around' is that karma......dunno.....but it always comes to pass.....so i bide my time, knowing in the end some peepz will get their just desserts.....=0) it sometimes helps me to tolerate things more, so it's a good thing.
kinda like the 'golden rule' which i believe has origins in the Bible.....for those that believe (like me) it's a comfort, for those that don't .....ignore it.......ehehhe
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-27 23:48 [#00717489]
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I don't strictly believe in karma. But if you look at the summation of events in a system, it is probably very similar to a chaotic equation: very small changes in initial conditions will propogate to produce large differences in the results: i.e. the realization "it is possible for a butterfly flapping its wings in the amazon to cause a hurricaine over the atlantic"
I don't think of it in a spiritual concept, just common sense, and not an absolute rule.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-05-28 00:35 [#00717509]
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umm
not sure, i'll have to browse through the Vedic scriptures and then i'll let ya know what i think.
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orangeboy
from brizzle (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-28 03:46 [#00717627]
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if you believe in karma then you're likely to believe in reincarnation - therefore to expect a "good" or "bad" act to be repaid in one of what could quite likely be thousands of lifetimes is a little unlikely, no?
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777
from Oulu (Finland) on 2003-05-28 03:50 [#00717630]
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i'm an atheist so no. but i do believe in karma police by radiohead.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-05-28 03:54 [#00717634]
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i definatelly dont beleive in reincarnation or zen or chi energy etc. but karma....i have noticed bad things happen closelly after good things happen or visa versa....i dont think its a punishment its just like a balance, you hvae to have bad and good....
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-28 04:39 [#00717687]
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yep.. for me its a what-goes-around, comes-around thing too. It´s a case of: if you do something "bad" (ie you know its wrong but do it anyway), it willl come back to haunt you by your own subconcious actions. As for pre-determined destiny? Nope! But very intuitive people can reliably predict the path most people will take, in general.
Human nature is all powerfull andinescapable... just love each other and forget about the whole Christian God thing... embrace the universe instead
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-05-28 04:46 [#00717688]
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Again "What goes around, comes around" I tend to agree with that. I'd like to think that by treating people nicely, that they'd do the same in return! We don't have absolute control over certain things...so there is always going to be an element of bad karma in our lives
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Iroel
from Pisa (Italy) on 2003-05-28 04:52 [#00717690]
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I just see it as something people invented to see a sense of justice in the world; where actually the only law that exists is that the strongest wins...
But hey if you like believing it keep doing it an be happy...
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nacmat
on 2003-05-28 05:11 [#00717700]
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I dont believe in karma
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-05-28 06:56 [#00717808]
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I believe that what "comes around goes around" will come around and go around wether it goes or comes. Make sense?
Don't believe in Karma. And I really dislike it when people resist doing something because they are afraid of Karma. If you don't want to do something, don't do it cause it's wrong (to you) not because you're scared something bad will happen to you. That just sounds like a mixed up conscious to me. It's weak.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 07:13 [#00717839]
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karma can be transcended.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-28 07:25 [#00717879]
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For me Karma is not something outside of my ciontrol or a predestiny or something... its just the idea that you don´t do something to someone that you would not let them do to you. It s saying that negativie actions leads to further negativity.
I see it as a conceptualistion of "doing the right thing" rather than anything externally spiritual. Its a nice idea, in other words, and a handy tool - nothing more
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-28 08:07 [#00717990]
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No. I've been a good, good boy, no drugs, no alcohol, church every Sunday, yet nothing good ever happens to me. I'm ready to pack it in and start killing my way to the top.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-05-28 10:30 [#00718180]
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you don't have to believe in it, because it's just there. Action=reaction, simple as that.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-28 11:52 [#00718251]
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misunderstanding is one thing, but misunderstanding a misunderstanding is quite another.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-05-28 11:53 [#00718254]
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action reaction isn't karma
Every action you do has some form of reaction. That's not the meaning of karma.
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-05-28 12:23 [#00718302]
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maybe its just a rational way of explaing karma instead of the whole "law of karma" theory
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-05-28 13:04 [#00718345]
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haha, plz don't try to tell me about karma missy. Karma is basically to act, so yes action=reaction is a part of that.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-05-28 13:09 [#00718355]
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karmacoma!
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-05-28 14:32 [#00718418]
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Well I don't see it as that mister...
Action = reaction is more like .. i smoke this joint as my action, then the reaction is me getting high.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-28 14:37 [#00718424]
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i believe in the law of averages.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-28 14:55 [#00718446]
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i dont think that if you are evil, karma will make an airplane crash into your house... or some random event that is uncontrolable
but if you are a dick to people... those people wont be nice back.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-05-28 14:56 [#00718447]
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There are consciquences to your actions, yes. but "good" and "bad" things happen to everyone, regardless...
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-05-28 14:57 [#00718450]
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I think if you feel bad about doing/saying/etc something, then you're more inclined to let bad things come your way cause you feel like you deserve it.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-28 14:58 [#00718454]
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I believe in the Tao.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-05-28 14:59 [#00718456]
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yess, very true...
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-28 15:56 [#00718561]
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i jump-started my karma
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-05-28 17:24 [#00718671]
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a small facet of the huge thing that is action=reaction
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Quatch
from ROFLOMGOMGOMG on 2003-05-28 18:03 [#00718719]
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i know karma works for me.
if i do nothing, my life looks like a sinewave, having constant rises and falls.
when i do something creative, i manage to keep it above the line of zero.
if i screw things up, i get a downtime.
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xceque
on 2003-05-28 18:40 [#00718738]
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Karma is not cause and effect, karma is the idea that cause and effect lead on one from another without any room for flexibility, that each effect is triggered by each cause in a way that's unchangeable and predestined. It's religious predestination in it's most blinkered form.
As I said before, events do operate around the laws of cause and effect, and it's easy to say "but that would have happened that way anyway" no matter what did happen. So in the end, it makes little difference what you believe. Just live your life and believe you can make a difference. If you give in to the belief that you can't change anything, you become apathetic and then you really will lose control of your life, just letting it go past you without interest. That's no life.
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Quatch
from ROFLOMGOMGOMG on 2003-05-28 18:58 [#00718762]
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Karma is not cause and effect
depends on what sources you use
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xceque
on 2003-05-28 19:01 [#00718767]
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Yeah, it's cause and effect if you use inaccurate sources.
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Quatch
from ROFLOMGOMGOMG on 2003-05-28 19:26 [#00718852]
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do you understand why i consider asm sources the most inaccurate?
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-05-28 19:28 [#00718859]
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no its not. Unless you consider the very source where karma has originated from inaccurate, now stfu
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regital
from Baltimore (United States) on 2003-05-28 22:49 [#00719072]
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no
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-05-28 23:06 [#00719090]
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true, good point
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