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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-03 11:55 [#00682582]
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Beef is not what Jay said to Nas Beef is when working niggas can't get jobs Instead trying to find niggas to rob, Trying to find bigger guns so they can finish the job. Beef is when the crack kids can't find moms Cuz they in a pine box or locked behind bars. Beef ain't the summer jam for Hot 9-7 Beef is the cocaine and AIDS epidemic. Beef don't come with a radio edit. Beef is when the judge is calling you defendant Beef, it come with a long jail sentence. Handed down to you in a few short minutes. Beef is when your girl come through for a visit, talk about, "I'm pregnant" by some other nigga. Beef is high blood-pressure and bad credit Need a loan for your home but too broke to get it. And all your little kids is doin is getting bigger Trying not raise them around these wild niggas. Beef is when a gold nigga got ya seat, and a manicured hand out like, "Pay me nigga" Or I'm telling your wife or starting up some foul rumor that'll ruin your life
Beef is when the gangsta ain't doing it right and anotha gangsta decided what to do with his life. Beef is not what these famous niggas do on a mic. Beef is what George Bush would do in a fight. Beef is not what Ja said to Fifty Beef is world to herb, not being here with me. When a soldier ends his life with his own gun, Beef is trying to figure out what to tell to his son. Beef is oil prices and geo-politics. Beef is Iraq, The West Bank, and Gaza Strip. Some beef is big and some beef is small, But what you call beef is not beef at all. Beef is real like, happening every day. And it's realer than them songs that gave to Kay Slay. This has been a Blackstar P.S.A From Mos Def, Pretty Flaco, Black Dante, and the Blackstar Embassy, B-to-the-K.
-Mos Def
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-03 12:02 [#00682587]
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And after twenty tries at defining beef, he still didn't get it right. It's the flesh of a slaughtered full-grown steer, bull, ox, or cow... What he lacks in an ability to define beef, he more than makes up for with eloquent use of ebonics.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-03 12:03 [#00682591]
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Lmof!!
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-05-03 12:08 [#00682600]
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"it's what's for dinner" sponsered by the national beef council
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-03 12:11 [#00682605]
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*wonders where da beef is?*
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-03 12:12 [#00682610]
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beef
no it's not goatse
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-03 12:13 [#00682612]
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buried with that old lady, me thinks
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-03 12:13 [#00682614]
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(L)aughing (M)y (O)pinion (F)loor
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-03 12:14 [#00682618]
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Lol!!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-03 12:15 [#00682622]
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Lol!!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-03 12:18 [#00682631]
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That's the ugliest statue of Alexander the Great I've ever seen.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-03 12:19 [#00682637]
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damn y'all makin me spit beefs out my mouth laughin!
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-03 12:20 [#00682638]
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oops! haha! Godamn you are observant!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-03 12:20 [#00682639]
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are you kidding me? I actually find it arousing!!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-03 12:24 [#00682642]
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Mos Def is in a new movie coming out, I forget the name... Donald Sutherland, Mark Wahlberg, Edward Norton are all in it too... oh damn, can't forget LL Cool J is in it as well... heh, but it looks kick ass...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-03 12:26 [#00682645]
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the italian job
mos def is a good actor but he's been in some bad movies... showtime comes to mind.. i enjoy his movies (and his broadway stint in the 2-man play topdog/underdog was critically acclaimed last summer) but i wish he'd concentrate on albums
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-03 12:27 [#00682647]
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I saw Mos Def in a episode of Spinn City , he's a decent actor.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-03 12:27 [#00682648]
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the preview was on before Identity... it looks real good...
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-03 12:31 [#00682652]
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ditto dat dood!
he needs to stop puttin OFF his albums!!!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-03 12:32 [#00682655]
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I'll give you this though tits, Mos Def has a great rap voice... haven't heard that much by him though, just one or two things...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-03 12:35 [#00682661]
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i'll put some mp3's up for you to download in 10-15 minutes mr. funk.. you don't have to like them i'll just pick some stuff you might like
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-03 12:35 [#00682662]
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ok, I'll download em when you're ready...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-03 12:39 [#00682668]
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I like the rap voice of the guy in funkstorung's "appetite" album, both of the male voice tracks are thuper thexy:
"wipe my ass with mc lyric
sheets
you got bullets? I got grenade launcher rhymes per week" (I don't know the actual words)
And though, being extremely homosexual, I don't find the female lyrics sexy, I still think they're wonderful.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-03 12:43 [#00682678]
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i think that there are 2 guys on that track...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-03 12:50 [#00682690]
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for whoever wants 4 mos def mp3's.. i'll take these down later today probably. some nice variety there but no album tracks or major compilation appearences.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-05-03 17:26 [#00682959]
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"Beef is when a gold nigga got ya seat, and a..." = Beef is when a gold digga got your seed in her...
and it's realer than the songs you gave to Kay-Slay.. I love that line
if they dont like that..show these kids 'may-december' titsworth
I went to the closing night of topdog/underdog.. mos def cried after a short speech at the end.. I met harvey keitel there .. and one person sitting about 10 seats to the right of me was rumored to be david letterman
did you see that play? I'd say it deserved the pulitzer it won.. I like the other stuff that playwright (that went to the same school as my sister) has done.. at one intermission point, the end of "careful (click, click)" played.. nice touch
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-05-03 17:27 [#00682961]
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and where did that black star/qtip song come from?
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uzim
on 2003-05-03 17:31 [#00682964]
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i am vegetarian. :P
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-05-03 17:40 [#00682973]
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anyone who likes those tracks should also check out the Resperation Remix w/Common... that tracks fuckin lights out!
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-05-03 17:47 [#00682981]
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yup.. that I think is the original.. the remix u should check is the one with black thought of the roots .. remixed by pete rock 'respiration (flyin' high remix)' VERY nice
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-05-03 17:53 [#00682990]
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i'll give it a listin!
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-05-03 18:09 [#00683013]
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listening now... nice, very nice. I can tell this is the start of another hip-hop binge for me. Hopefully I don't OD again though!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-03 18:11 [#00683015]
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theo:
"Beef is when a gold nigga got ya seat, and a..." = Beef is when a gold digga got your seed in her...
thanks for catching that... i tried to make it easy on myself by finding the lyrics and just pasting, but i ended up having to fix like 12 lines myself. i missed that one.
this one still makes no sense to me: Beef is world to herb, not being here with me.
the kay slay line is particularly funny cos these lyrics were debuted in a freestlye on kay slay's show (along w/ monch and skillz)
i wish i coulda gone to the mos def broadway play but broadway tix are expensive and hard to find as it is, plus i live in DC not NYC
the black star & q-tip song with weldon irvine came from some tribute to weldon irvine compilation (i think)
i'll upload the "respiration" remix to the same URL in a moment (check it in about 5 minutes)
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-05-03 19:18 [#00683054]
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maybe, then, he's saying "beef is weldon irv not being here with me"
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-03 19:19 [#00683056]
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bingo!!!! that's exactly it. thanks for your ears.
which are you more excited about, mos' next hip-hop album or his upcoming rock album?
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-05-03 20:28 [#00683094]
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I dont know. as far as the hiphop album is concerned, it seems he's done a fair share of pandering to mainstream tastes.. but I dont think that'll threaten the integrity that would accompany the production of another album in his name
as far as blackjack johnson is concerned.. a friend saw them at penn state and had nothing good to report (there may be a frame-of-reference issue there though) and I saw them on hbo's reverb (the other act was kweli) and although they have a nice lineup, I wasnt too impressed with most of the material.. I dont know though.. considering the people in the band u'd have to trust that their output would be worthy of multiple listens/possible purchase.. I dont know if we'll ever see this though? esp. if it's in the rawkus waiting room .. that label wouldnt take a chance with something like this - consider their attempts to rise up from the underground - and they just dont have their shit together.. when was the last time there even was a rawkus release??
I remember when they used to take chances and were more progressive (do u remember the rawkuts drum'nbass spinoff label they had?).. it seems everyone .. once they see 5-6 digits opt for conforming and regressing rather than progress.. which leaves the artists in a tricky situation because they have to produce sub-par, out-of-their-element pandering material... that's what happens when rupert murdoch's son starts a record label though.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-03 20:39 [#00683097]
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mos has worked with a lot more mainstream producers and artists since BOBS came out, for sure...
but after hearing kanye west's tracks on talib's album i'm not worried at all about him ruining mos def, pharoahe monch, or dead prez... it turns out the first beat kanye ever sold was to not jay-z but dead prez, so that says something about how kanye isn't just some commercial clown
mos' next hip-hop album will be a lot more diverse than his first one judging by some of his appearences... it may be more accessible in general but when i hear new songs like "close to the edge" and "what's beef" it doesn't strike me that mos could release a commercial album or a bunch of songs pandering to the mainstream
i saw BJJ in DC january 2002 and they were awesome.. i think they were hesitant to play anything they'd written together cos they knew their album won't come out for a couple years and didn't want to contribute to their own bootlegging. "ghetto" ("for my people") is my fav BJJ original.
rawkus sold the rights to BJJ to MCA so this should be coming out late this year for real... MCA haven't messed up yet with hip-hop in my opinion. (last rawkus/MCA release was quality)
i don't remember any dnb on rawkus except for some "simon says" remixes
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-05-03 22:07 [#00683130]
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that kanye west is a oft-hired producer (actually employed by rocafella .. like ol'dirty bastard is now [btw..?!?!?]) is a great thing. the same goes for timbaland and the neptunes.. they're sound is (was once.. some of their contributions have worn quite thin .. for obvious reasons) innovative, timbaland revolutionized popular music as a whole I'd say.. much of that might have to do with the mid-to-late-90s electronica/dnb wave influence actually..
it's bizarre to me to find musicians that I actually LIKE being used at every opportunity by the mainstream .. all this came after the swizz beats/dame grease/ruff ryder craze of course.. which still amazes me.. who/how did anyone think that shit was good!?!? so seeing kanye west, timbaland and neptunes in the mainstream is quite a paradox for me.. I love it.. but I'm just not used to what I like .. as well as even remote creativity being exhibited.. being in the mainstream and used by anyone who's anybody. that's also the one downside.. timberlake and miss aguilera can get these 'it' producers (kanye excluded of course) to work with them now.. as their holding down that x-variable position for the time being..
but yeah.. I like kanye west hahaa
I'm thinking about getting that kweli album.. I saw a really good video for the new single.. and I've liked the other tracks I've heard.. tell me ayatollah is a producer on it as well and I'm buying it ;)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-03 22:42 [#00683143]
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ayatollah produced "joy" and "the proud" (my fav song on the album i think). i think kweli can express himself more as an emcee w/o hi-tek... different producers allow different styles, ranges...
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