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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-24 11:40 [#00666758]
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"Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (Sars) has killed 15 people in the city - the entire death toll for Canada.
But Mr Lastman, the mayor, insisted the outbreak of the deadly virus was under control and the medical evidence did not support a travel ban. "
This being the urgent matter this is, I have asked AMinal, to skip school tomorrow (as he lives in Toronto) and to go on an mission for us. I have supplied him with the following:-
* Map detailing the best route for him to stop and do intervals.
* Packed lunch (best he doesn't buy anything)
* tape recorder, to record interviews
* notepad / pencils / crayons
* cloth for putting over face, when talking to people
* 50% off voucher for the CN Tower
AMinal is gonna give us a full report tommorow.....if he........errrrrrrrr when he gets back. Watch this space...
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-24 11:45 [#00666761]
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*stop and do interviews*
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-24 11:51 [#00666767]
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''AMinal is gonna give us a full report tommorow.....if he........errrrrrrrr when he gets back''
IF he gets back. Alive.
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RobE
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-24 11:52 [#00666769]
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*cloth for putting over face,when talking to people
hax2000!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 11:53 [#00666770]
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who carres AIDS is worrse.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-24 11:55 [#00666777]
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Don't you be too sure!
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-24 11:57 [#00666781]
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Let me tell you something. I can WHO can verify these facts.
36,000 people DIED of the flu in the U.S. last year.
250,000 to 500,000 people die from the flu worldwide EVERY YEAR.
The survival rate of SARS victims is upwards of 90%. Only those who are immuno-compromised are of substantial risk.
The media has blown this far out of proportion. THe virus causes pneumonia. There are very effective treatments for pneumonia. A number of deaths from these contagious diseases are results of drug related toxicity, side-effects or reactions.
SARS is nowhere NEAR as contagious as a cold or a flu. It's simply a NEW virus, not the end of the world. In comparison to many viruses in fact, it's VERY tame.
Don't listen to the media, they thrive on paranoia.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 11:59 [#00666783]
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yeah i don't mean it, i'm being cocky. just look at my SARS thrread. its stupid.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 12:00 [#00666786]
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yeah this is all "so farr" just give it a few months
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-24 12:05 [#00666793]
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At the very worst, I think it would be as deadly as the flu. They have identified the virus as a newly mutated "coronavirus" that until recently was found only in other mammals.
Having identified the virus, it remains very possible that a vaccine could be produced within 2 years.
In addition, the antibodies produced in survivors could be utilized as an effective treatment. It was done with Ebola with reasonable success.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-24 12:07 [#00666796]
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I'm work in the Health industry - it's part of my job to keep up to date. I've been checking Health Canada and the WHO every couple of days.
The facts indicate that it's not nearly as bad as people are assuming.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 12:08 [#00666799]
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but its not good?
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-04-24 12:14 [#00666809]
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Well ofcourse it's not good. But there were a lot of recoveries from it.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-24 12:15 [#00666811]
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No - death is not good (depending on your views).
But, considering the nature of the beast, it's getting more coverage than Iraq, and should be on page 12 instead of the front.
Researchers are convinced that the west nile virus will get worse, and surpass the lethality of SARS.
Am I worried about SARS? No - I'm 24, I'm in good health. I get sick, I get better, my body is stronger as a result - end. I don't wear a mask, I ride the subway, and I wash my hands as much as always.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 12:17 [#00666814]
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o well it was only the old cunts with no families and the little weak orrphans that died, no rreal loss.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-24 12:26 [#00666831]
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It's exactly the same situation with the flu. I'm not downplaying SARS, or the high risk groups.
I would like to emphasize that the common flu kills hundreds of thousands every year.
To this date 263 deaths have resulted WORLDWIDE. 4439 cases have contracted the virus. 5.9% mortality rate. The recovery period is rather lengthly, but the prognosis is really good.
Personally, I don't think Torontonians should be upset (myself included). If this travel advisory saves lives, I support its implementation. Lives first, economy second.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 12:31 [#00666837]
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"Lives first, economy second"
Exactly, one life to someone somewherre means the worrld to them, a life is a past and a futurre even if its "only" 263 deaths.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-24 12:35 [#00666850]
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Uhh.....yes I know. The point I am trying to empahsize is that when the flu is killing thousands of people, nobody even flinches. Then SARS emerges, kills a small fraction of what the flu succeeds in doing EVERY year, and we have full blown paranoia and an orgy of media stories.
I'm just making a comparison. I'm not suggesting that 263 deaths are acceptable. I'm suggesting that our focus is misguided by the mind-bending power of our favourite friend - the television.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 12:40 [#00666860]
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yeah i'm not getting at you mate.
but i don't see why if we can stop this, wipe it out beforre it takes hold, we should not.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-04-24 12:40 [#00666861]
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rratherr than just saying how therre arre so many worrse thing, we all know this.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-24 12:53 [#00666881]
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I agree that a Toronto travel advisory should be implemented. The only ones who don't agree are the money hungry ones who rely on tourism and travel.
I also think that those placed on quarantine should adhere to their restrictions. It's the idiots who are supposed to be under quarantine that are hanging out at the malls that pose a great risk to other's safety. I think voluntary quarantine should now be mandatory and enforced to the fullest extent of the law. Motherf.... it really pisses me off.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-24 14:24 [#00667023]
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I'm sure AMinal will be perfectly fine....he's quite resourceful for a Canadian!
:P
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