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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-23 14:49 [#00665206]
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My neighbour knows someone....blah blah who gets hold of new films on pirate DVD right? I borrowed a disk this evening to see the quality, and it had two films on...Treasure Planet, and some Nickelodean crappy film......anyway thats besides the point....the quality of Treasure Planet is 100% stunning and surround sound as well....
Now my neighbour says his mate's mate downloads the films........is this possible at that kinda quality? I've downloaded films with Kazaa, but they have all been ropey 'classic' pirate copy quality.
Anyone know?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 14:52 [#00665210]
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you cannot format video files in surround sound as far as i'm aware
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-23 14:53 [#00665211]
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Maybe Treasure Planet is already available on DVD in the US, and this is just copied onto another disk, with another film....I don't know...
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-04-23 15:01 [#00665216]
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Treasure fucking planet?
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-23 15:15 [#00665239]
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You can say what you wanna say, but the animation is amazing.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2003-04-23 15:19 [#00665244]
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the format is probably divx or xvid, which is like mp3, but for dvd's instead.. it's a matter of compressing.. yeah..
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-04-23 15:19 [#00665246]
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There's so many fucking things wrong with the film i don't even want to start. I can just imagine all these speccy fucking geeks in some room together "brainstorming".
"Yeah, let's do Treasure Island, but listen to me, here's the deal - it's in space! And there's robots and everything. The kids will love it!"
It's fucking desperate marketing shit and I'm glad it fucking bombed.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-23 15:33 [#00665270]
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Was this a DVD or a CD?
I've made Super VCDs with quality approaching DVD, but you can't fit a whole lot on a regular CD.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-23 15:35 [#00665272]
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yeah divx and svcd can be pretty high quality, but as far as i know you only get prologic surround rather than dolby digital or dts surround
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-23 15:43 [#00665285]
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Of course it's possible! Either search for "screeners" or get anything that is around 700mb. A dvd quality flick running about 2hrs is roughly 730mb. You have to sort through the shite - and if it won't preview the incomplete file get DivFix or something similar.
Should we be talking about this? :)
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2003-04-23 15:45 [#00665287]
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what's your flava,... tell me what's your flava
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-23 15:50 [#00665302]
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The ones I've found aren't really close to DVD quality - I guess some people don't know how to encode properly.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-23 15:55 [#00665312]
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www.vcdhelp.com have some great guides to ripping and encoding
try this newbie guide
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 16:05 [#00665332]
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IW: i think it's a case of pawning off a DVD rip as "DVD quality" cos most people don't notice the difference. they think if it's on a big computer screen and it doesn't look "fucked up" then it MUST be great quality (nevermind the sound). as long as it gets the job done for them, more power to these people, but this is why i don't fuck with movie downloads unless the movie is extremely hard to find (eg: eraserhead, un chien andalou), cos i'll notice the difference.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-04-23 16:06 [#00665333]
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you can get DVD quality movies that are still in theaters, i know, i have ummteens.
there are in .vob format or .iso, which you burn to a dvd-r or dvd+r
they have perfect dvd video quality, as well as 5.1 dolby suround sound. some also included chapter breaks.
you can do AC3 encoding, which is 5.1 surround on a divx movie (divx being a video codec, mpeg4 + mp3 sound)
so, if you have ne more quetsions let me know,
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-23 16:15 [#00665352]
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vob files are significantly bigger than divx avi's though aren't they...
for most people a 700mb download is pretty huge, so i don't fancy a 2gig vob!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-23 16:15 [#00665353]
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Shit, I'm not spoiled. I grew up taping shit off tv and watching it till there was snow, picture quality is always in relation to availability. I have a fine copy of Half Baked which you can't get over here. Got plenty of US dvds too. But there's some movies I just feel no obligation paying money to see in the cinema...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 16:20 [#00665363]
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i'm not faulting people for downloading movies, hollywood is the last institution that needs more money from the working class. i'm just making a point that true DVD quality "rips" are 99.9% non-existent as-of-yet.
i watch things on VHS tape rentals (mostly for free from the school library) and HBO so i'm not a snob about dvd's or nothin'. i just don't like having to use windows media player to watch a movie, plus i like having more control than just start, stop, pause. also i hate waiting in line to download a movie. why wait 6 days for a film i could pay $2 to rent (or $0 if the school has it), or in some cases $12-18 to buy (some movies i'm very happy to purchase, but i'm not a "movie fan" per se).
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-23 16:25 [#00665370]
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Yeah sure. I basically despise going to the cinema so I just watch films in the house... man I watch a depressing amount of movies!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-23 16:27 [#00665377]
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i really enjoy watching movies.. i'm different from a lot of people in that i rarely watch things more than once (at least not in a span of, say, 4 years) but i'm constantly watching new things. i actually take a lot of recommendations from this site.
in summer 2000 i started a list of movies i wanted to see. originally it was around 50, now it's like 9 pages long printed. crossed out are any movies i've seen NOT in theaters that were on my list (since 2000). click
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-04-23 16:41 [#00665396]
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titsworth,
i have well over 200+ divx rips - divx being the codec used to ENCODE the movie from a DVD to a digital file on my computer. DivX using mpeg4 video compression, and mp3 audio compression.
I have 70+ dvd movies that I have copied in the past few weeks. There is _NO_ audio or visual loss on these copies. I even bought the cases and printed out the labels, so it looks like a real copy, meh :)
You can now get DivX dvd-rips with 5.1 sound using AC3.
All my dvd-rips --> divx all look beautiful. But again, 700mb is a SMALL FILE for a movie of this quality. You can't complain, but video can only be compressed so far.
For computer watching (nice 18'' LCD) you can't beat a divx codec ripped dvd movie. But now that I got a nice tv/audio setup, id much rather copy DVDs directely. And you cannot playback / decode a DIVX movie rip, as dvd players dont have the hardware or power to do that.
VCD/SVCDs are still mpeg2 and not as highly compressed, thus dvd players can easily decode.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-04-23 16:55 [#00665418]
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titsworth, hit me up aim/icq sometime.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-23 17:14 [#00665442]
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i DOUBT you can get surround, but ive downloaded a couple DVD rips {Punch Drunk Love, Pitch Black, Idle Hands, Rompter Stomper}.... all greeeaaaatttt quality.
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-04-23 17:41 [#00665478]
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I can only confrim what "elusive" says: 5.1 surround IS possible, as long as the soundtracks of the movie are encoded with the ac3 codec. There is even a ac3 tool that enables you to adjust the volume of the different channels as you watch the movie - but since I don't have more than 2 speakers I don't really care if it supports 5.1 or not, I only need it to hear the sound of movies that are encoded with ac3. And also, ocasionally, to lower the volume of the music score that often tends to be a little high for my taste - I hate sudden, bomastic string things.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-04-23 18:55 [#00665557]
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REFLEX, you DOUBT you can get surround sound?
uhh, yeah, ok. sure thing,
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-04-23 18:58 [#00665563]
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the animation in spirited away is amazing. the animation in treasure planet is....less than amazing. much much less.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-04-23 21:41 [#00665738]
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