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offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 02:15 [#00649033]
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I'm planning on buying some of his stuff,
which one(s) of the titles below would you recommend? (if
you're into his music of course)

- Piano Music
- Piano Music, Incl. 6 Gnos
- L'Oeuvre Pour Piano
- Popular Piano Works
- Gymnopedie
- Socrate-Le Piege
- Mon Ami Satie
- Quatre Preludes-Danses
- (Complete) Piano Works Vol. ?
- The Best of Erik Satie / Kormendi, Kaltenbach, Nancy SO

Some of these or others maybe, I'd really like some advice.
Thanks in advance :)

(i'm only interested in his solo stuff, not him with others
or other people playing his music)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 02:37 [#00649047]
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"Early Piano works" is a good introduction. I didn't know
there were recordings of him playing- I thought it was all
other people playing his stuff?


 

offline fat kaimo from Finland on 2003-04-14 02:40 [#00649050]
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heh, good luck finding hifi recordings of Satie playing his
music... he died in 1925..:)
if that was what you meant...


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 02:41 [#00649053]
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ow.. yeah could be, i still don't have any of his stuff.
it's pretty old of course
anyway thx for the advice (and bump at the same time) :)


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 02:49 [#00649060]
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yeah didn't think of that, i thought he died some decades
later, didn't know really
there won't be any records him playing i'm affraid.. but
when was radio invented, beginning of 1900 right? i read
somewhere that the first commercial radio broadcast was in
1920..

well i think i'll have to do with records with others
playing his music :)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 02:51 [#00649063]
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Avoid Rheinbert (someone or other)'s versions, he plays too
slowly, even for Satie's stuff... there are another two
pianists who have done most of his stuff both of which are
much better (not to mention you fit more on a CD!)


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 02:55 [#00649067]
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you mean 'reinbert de leeuw' ?
but..
but... he's dutch!

no seriously, i'll try and check out some other pianists,
thx again


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 03:06 [#00649080]
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That's the one, I couldn't think of the way to spell his
surname, but that's it. Yep, he plays way to slowly. It's
almost like someone sending up Satie's style!

You stick to listening to de leeuw on Philips hi-fis if you
want to be patriotic, the
rest of us will all be listening to Pascal Roge's versions
on Marantz hi-fis :P


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 03:10 [#00649083]
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*writes down: 'Pascal Roge'*

*throws away the note with 'Reinbert de Leeuw' on it*

*orders Marantz hi-fi online*


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 03:11 [#00649088]
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Well done Morton, you're learning :D


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-14 03:19 [#00649094]
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I have the Reinbert De Leeuw-cd actually :-p

And i like it alot, don't listen to Ceri, get that note out
of the garbage-bin again!

Hehe, well actually i don't have any other satie-cd's, so i
don't know... i might like them even better. Reinbert plays
very slowly, but i like it. I think it sounds great.

Do you know that television-commercial for Algemeen Dagblad?
"misdaad voordat het misdaad is" enzo? The music in there is
the 5th gnossiene from the reinbert-cd.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 03:23 [#00649099]
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I've got a lot of tracks by De Leeuw and by Roge... I
really do prefer Roge, but I suppose it's a matter of taste.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-14 03:27 [#00649105]
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I'll listen to some Pascal Roge sometime, to be able to tell
the difference :-)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-14 03:31 [#00649108]
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Morton, i once made a thread about satie. People gave me
some other suggestions you might be interested in as well
:-)

Moops!


 

offline Erronous from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-14 03:43 [#00649118]
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yes! all great, BUT
now i feel this opinion-mood:
I have to take advance out of it, what about THIS





 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 03:47 [#00649121]
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thanks!

btw it's "MOORS" !

and yeah i know that AD commercial, i love the music
i'm gonna buy some of his cd's for sure (but wether it'll be
'Roge' or 'de Leeuw' ..?)

*flips a coin*


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-14 04:01 [#00649127]
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Erronous: sorry i don't know any of those

Morton: I'm sorry, the card says Moops ;-)

I just went to a store that sold classical music and bought
the cheapest satie-cd they had, haha :-p

It's really confusing that you put your old avatars up for
grabs btw ;-) Some guy used the southpark-figure with the
æ-shirt.... it's like we have two morton's mow :-p


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 04:09 [#00649133]
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Some guy used the southpark-figure with the
æ-shirt....


really? here on xltronic? wow, that's funny! haven't seen
him yet..

Hey surrounded (or someone else) do you think THIS one
is worth to get? I'd really like to have those
Gnossiennes..

and (if you have the time) have a look at www.bol.com and
search for 'satie' at the music section
there's just too much!!!
"piano works vol. 10" ?! i don't know which one to get!

ow i don't think i'll get those 'de leeuw' ones since the
frontcovers have those "philips" bars (at least the ones
i've seen)
yes i'm one of those idiots who also cares for the cd-cover,
i don't like those cheap and ugly ones..

boy, this is going to get tough..


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 04:10 [#00649135]
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i mentioned that particular one cause it's only 8,99 euro
dunno if it's crap or not..


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-14 04:15 [#00649139]
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yeah the cover is horrible. But i've never seen
any erik satie-cd that had a good cover
:-(

It's a terrible tragedy... someone should make a nice
compilation of his best tracks and design some decent
artwork for it. Maybe someday i'll do it myself ;-)


 

offline Erronous from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-14 04:19 [#00649145]
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so why suddenly erik satie?
does it sound like Glass, else: how is it different?


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 04:22 [#00649148]
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just 'cause i don't have any of his stuff yet, it's not
really the same as Glass, both minimalistic though

my sister told me this weekend she had a book with Satie's
music (sheet music for piano) somewhere at home,
man i'm gonna borrow (read: steal) that one


 

offline Erronous from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-14 04:28 [#00649152]
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"just 'cause i don't have any of his stuff yet"
hmz i can make up a list with hundreds of artists you 'don't
have anything of'...
Nonetheless classic piano is perfect for specific moments..


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-04-14 10:24 [#00649630]
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I like this one by Ciccolini. A lot of pieces at a
reasonable price. There's also a disc of newer recordings by
Ciccolini, but I haven't been able to find it for
comparison.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 10:27 [#00649636]
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He he, it's meant to be harder to play than it sounds....


 

offline loeser from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 10:53 [#00649670]
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my favourite satie song must be gnosniennes


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 11:33 [#00649741]
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well i play piano for 'bout 12 years ..
i can at least give it a try ey :)

maybe it's indeed too difficult

btw thx all for the suggestions


 

offline bird from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2003-04-14 12:01 [#00649787]
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maybe listen to some Anne Queffelec(sp?) recordings. She has
(at least) two cds of his music, all the essentials and her
playing is the best i've heard so far!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-14 12:09 [#00649807]
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Let us hear any renditions you do of it. I've yet to hear
someone I know play it.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 12:44 [#00649864]
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i will!
i don't know how long it'll take though, first i have to get
that book and then i have to work on it
i only have a real piano (no keyboard or something) and it's
at my parents house (since i have no room for it), so i
won't have much time to study, but when i'm at my parents
i'm mostly playing piano (it's one of the main reasons i
visit them :D )
i'll have to try what best to record it, i think my
md-recorder with a mic or something..
i'll try somethin' out :)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-14 12:53 [#00649880]
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You play the piano? I didn't know that. Boy, I tell ya',
knowing you is like going out in the jungle. I never know
what I'm going to find next!

Seriously though, that is pretty cool :-) I sometimes wish i
could play a musical instrument. I too would like to hear
you play some satie.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 13:05 [#00649897]
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patience my friend, patience

maybe i'll record something else which i can play already
when (/if) i go to my parents this weekend

i'll let you know if i recorded something


 


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