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thought you guys all might like to read this, I found it kinda harsh...but thats just me. |
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not that i disagree with him or anything, atleast not completely, but thom sounds a bit pissy. hes a bit extreme, maybe too dramatic as well. but i still agree that this war is self seeking, just not for the reasons he provides. |
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good stuff... not that I feel that strongly or anything, but I like to see other people expressing their opinions... and it is true that the government wasn't voted in by a majority... I can never get past that... it's such a fucked up system that allowed them to get in... |
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mmmm... i mean fair enough that he's making his voice heard about something he feels strongly about. but then maybe that's all it was meant to be? |
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why don't you feel strongly about the war? why wouldn't anyone? it's a pretty serious thing... personally i think we should get out of there for a number of reasons. we never belonged there in the first place and it's not too late to leave now. |
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i agree fully |
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tits: have you seen the latest clips of the statue being toppled? this brief moment of euphoria will be priceless to the administration. |
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they've been using that now as though its the only thing that matters in the war. comparing it to the fall of communism. there are so many problems with this, and the war isn't technically over. |
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well, I really meant as strongly as Thom Yorke seemed to be... I have my opinions about way, but in this case I really don't have a solution to the problem other then this... Saddam had to go, and I really don't know any other ways... it's just me... so I'm kind of back and forth with this war... not sure of where I stand totally... on the once hand I believe war is wrong, but on the other hand there is this crazy person leading a country with weapons of mass destruction... |
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i know i know .. and its a very dangerous way to justify a war. also ... the war was meant to be about chemical weapons not regime change (well according to 1443 or whatever) - which might be a clever move combining the two such that the un can not have a slice of the iraqi pie? not over yet though ... but for some reason i think this sense of suspense - of what is going to happen works in bush's favour? maybe something will happen |
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i don't follow brainwashing propaghanda (tv news), i'll prolly read about that later.. sounds totally unfamiliar tho. all i know is that the iraqis aren't as "happy" as the idiot box is telling everyone. |
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the main thing to be considered by both the pro and anti war people is : how will america be viewed after this and are they ok with the idea of america increasing its reputation as an empire? we've broken international law and violated alot of tenets set forth in the UN, not to mention our justifications for this war are, as yorke said, false. immoral in somes eyes, although from an economic standpoint its a short term gain (in oil. saudi arabia is knocked off the top spot, we gain control of iraqs fields and become a virtual member of opec). long term on the other hand...probably not too pretty. |
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well .. i think they are happy at the moment (the ones on the camera anyway) - but this oughtn't overshadow what's to come ... the chaos in basra - who is going to run iraq .. all that. .. mmm.. just a question though - coz i can't quite remember. "regime change" was added towards the very end of the proposal (after US was going it alone?) .. i don't know .. |
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and it will be a short lived happiness - perhaps? don't know ... |
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"Why? Because America is being run by a bunch of religious maniac bigots who stole their election and their only way of retaining power is to wage a war. Find a war: Wage a war. Get the next election. They need this war before the next election, it's the only reason it's being fought. It is not moral it is self-seeking." Well wageing a war didn't help Bush Sr. get re-elected, so heres to hopeing. |
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i wouldn't say this war is being fought to get bush reelected. he obviously wants that, and i'm sure its a possible (hopefully not) outcome. but i think his reasons are economic more than political. |
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I think that now that the american people are scared they will choose a president who starts wars against "possible danger" |
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"but on the other hand there is this crazy person leading a country with weapons of mass destruction... " and his name is George W Bush |
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He's the leader of your country...what are you going to do about it? money/political gains etc who gives a shit!! He's abusing YOUR power. ok, rant over........ Hopefully something good will come from it. I'm sure it will, I still have faith in people.... |
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oh man you should've seen real time with bill maher last friday... aaron mcgruder (cartoonist, "the boondocks") was totally flipping things around on maher when he tried to play devil's advocate and justify this war. maher would list these things comparing bush and hussein "one of them is..." and then aaron would be like, "AND THE OTHER IS SADDAM HUSSEIN." hah! |
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oh yea, we'll get cheaper gasoline out of this! woo! unless they use this to create a fuel monopoly and hold drivers for hostage with gas prices. but seriously i think this is making kids more politically active. not all of them but some, and probably ones that never knew they had it in them. |
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Are you from Congo? I hear about the extremely tense situation there, over a thousand people slaughtered in 3 hours. Now where is the media with that story? What are the "concerned" leaders Bush and Blair going to do about that? The same applies for Robert Mugabe. Nothing will be done, as tackling these regimes will bring little corporate gain. |
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in case he scampers off after seeing i'm on, he's not from congo: he's a fake african! |
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tits, I don't hide when you are on.......I just log out so people will diss me as I'm not there, so I can have some fun. when's your next radio show? |
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uh....i'm trying to explain why i think hes going to war. not why i think its right for him to go to war. got it? and what will i do? well, i could try and go into politics and take over the country by not getting elected, bend the will of the people to my own personal beliefs, and then use unchecked military power to destroy the infrastructure of a small, relatively irrelevent middle eastern country, and then a small percentage of americans would congratulate me while i didn't bother rebuilding the country i destroyed, instead placing a corrupt leader to head it. ten years down the line i could have my successor declare war on that country again, using a national disaster as an excuse to do so. rant over. |
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sunday morning.. i'm playing dr. octagon, esem, boom bip, bjork, the postal service, mogwai, and johnny cash. i think i have about 4 shows left. i don't think you mean re: the dissing but i must let you know you frustrate me sometimes. didn't you get the kitten?! |
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I think he's a terrible singer. If Radiohead had someone decent on vocals, I might actually be a fan. As for his political views, I find them amusing. |
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OK! OK! I only asked a few questions! I'm not asking you to be a political opposition to bush in real terms, the american power in my opinion is being abused. Just make sure you vote for what you want. I'm not dissing you, just being me... |
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which kitten? I frustrate myself all the time! I know I've got things to do and I do everything but those things.....I'm trying to better myself honestly.. |
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uh...once again. I DIDN'T vote for bush. i was in political opposition to him and i have no idea what the hell you're trying to read into my statement about his purpose for the war. |
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i agree with him. |
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okay then!! I'm not attacking you..do some press ups or something. you seem like you need to spend some energy on something. |
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hah, i do, you're right. its certainly shouldn't be arguing with you over something stupid. i just don't want anyone getting the impression (wrong one at that) that i somehow agree with what bush is doing or voted for him. |
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the kitten i sent you in the email yesterday. the subject header is like ------research questions------ and there's an attached jpg. please read it now and reply, it's not long. i'll be honest with you man, me and paula worry about you sometimes and we hope everything's alright with you. it's hard to tell sometimes cos you don't really say anything. |
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It's been a bit wierd recently, my grandmother died and my mum is really upset...I'm trying to make business as usual but it's a bit funny sometimes. The whole 'career' thing is going well but it's secondry really. thanks for caring though tits....and paula... I'll pull myself together soon. |
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i'm sorry your grandmother died! that bites. when did it happen? i hope she lived to a ripe old age and died naturally. all of my grandparents are dead but i wasn't too close to any of them. best wishes to your family. what i emailed about, as you might've guessed, is those questions you were going to help me out with. i will be honest with you, i have a rough draft due monday and if you could send what you have now and the rest before the final draft i would really appreciate it. i know you know your stuff about this music and my teacher says this would be really useful. |
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games to cheer you up if you need 'em |
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i LOVE homstarrunner!!!! |
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thanks for the kind words tits, I'll send what I've got tomorrow definately. she was 96 which is good but my mum is really sad and I feel awfull. I'd better go to sleep...thanks again travis. I'll mail you tomorrow, g'night. |
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thanks a lot, and goodnight |
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well, i don't think he's overreacting or whatever somebody said. i don't believe the war is for election though. i think bush actually believes in this war, i think he actually believes that he is doing god's will and he's being saintly and doing the godly thing in the face of worldwide opposition. he has very extreme bible-as-absolute-word-of-god friends. and of course, there's quite a fat carrot waiting for him. |
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kind of a silly way to introduce himself anyhow...yeah, has anybody even heard of radiohead? |
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haha. |
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nice sunglasses... I wish I was rich:( |
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Whoops! You mean Thom Yorke actually cashes in on "THE SYSTEM"? Well, I guess it's inevitable right? |
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i think he was being modest. not everyone has heard of radiohead. i could ask 10 different people a day (i work with) and i bet 9 outta 10 wouldn't know who they are. thom was a bit harsh, but i think maybe with his demeanor maybe in person it wouldn't have come off as harsh. everyone is entitled to their own opinion tho.... |
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should he have compromised himself for politeness? wtf o_0 |
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oye.......thats not what i said or implied......WTF!!! i'm giving my opinion.....stop READING into it.....that bugs |
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sorry if it was put a little rudely, but i'm just trying to comprehend what it would require of him to have been less "harsh". seems to me he would have had to hold back how he really felt. i don't even necessarily agree with him, as i stated above. |
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i was mearly stating my opinion. PERIOD. i didn't say anything else, like 'tone it down thom' etc..... just take it for what it was, nothing more. i think people sometimes READ too much into what people are typing, and not just on this MB. it's just a pet peeve (of mine) when people misinterpret what you say....but just for the RECORD. thom can say whatever he wants, however he wants. |
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