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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-03-21 23:52 [#00608937]
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i've just finished watching this movie on DVD. it must be the weirdest fucking movie i've seen in my life (along with naked lunch) i don't really know what to think of it, i can't say it was good or not. i'm just very confused. was this movie just random weird scenes thrown together or am i suppose to find any kind of meaning? i really thought david lynch was weird before, but after this movie i'm beginning to think he's insane :)
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-03-21 23:54 [#00608940]
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i felt like i was having a weird nightmare when i was watching this movie. if u think of it as a dream, then it makes sense because dreams make no sense. do i make any sense? :)
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MongoloidBaby
from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-21 23:54 [#00608941]
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whoa... dvd? what the fuck? where'd you find that?
yes there's meaning, i've only seen it once though and read a brief analysis, so i can't really give a very good explanation.
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MongoloidBaby
from Savannah (United States) on 2003-03-21 23:55 [#00608943]
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and dreams almost always make sense when you spend a bit of time attempting to understand them... maybe with the help of someone else.
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-03-22 01:23 [#00608977]
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The dvd is sold exclusively at www.davidlynch.com
Also - its not just a bunch of scenes thrown together... it has plenty of "meaning", but you kind of have to understand David Lynch (and what was going on in his life at the time) to understand Eraserhead. You also have to be pretty familiar with his brand of symbolism. Its a very personal film for him. Here's the jist of it: Lynch was a young guy, newly married, with a new baby. And it was scary to him. He was also living in Philadelphia at the time, and found it to be one of the ugliest, lonliest places in the world.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-03-22 02:53 [#00609030]
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no, dave lynch is just crazy.
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optimus prime
on 2003-03-22 03:02 [#00609038]
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DAVID LYNCH CAUGHT WITH CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-22 04:48 [#00609123]
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yes, Eraserhead is like a nightmare caught on film... possibly the only film ever to have achived this.
Brilliant film, definately in my top ten!!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-22 04:49 [#00609124]
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Well its an old film of his, and he used to make more like "art movies", and they gradually became more meaningfull. so dont be hard on yourself! see it as a dreamlike peace of art. and laugh/be disgusted by it. whats that optimus prime?
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-03-22 05:56 [#00609141]
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uhhm, no the DVD is not sold exclusively on davidlynch.com. I got my copy on play.com where it has been available for ages
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2003-03-22 06:03 [#00609146]
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David Lynch busted for Kiddie Porn? I don't think so...
Seriously, Lynch is crazy. If there is a deeper meaning to Eraserhead, it's known only to himself. Same with Lost Highway (a complete waste of 2hrs 10min)... though Mullholland Drive was actually very good IMO. It still makes no sense whatsoever, but at least he held that one together through interesting characters and great acting.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-22 06:07 [#00609148]
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am i the only one who understood Mulholland Drive?
Its simple once you know the order in which the film would play out in conventional order.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2003-03-22 06:13 [#00609150]
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I tried to peice it all together cronologically as well, but there is that one scene where the guy goes behind the Diner to confront his dream... Just tell me where that fits in ANYWHERE in the plot :p It's my favorite scene, btw.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 06:51 [#00609157]
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oi! i could go on and on, but i won't. my love and appreciation of lynch's work knows no bounds... alberto: go with the dream feeling. in fact, go with that for all his work. some of his detractors on this board who just think he's wanking need to watch some documentary footage on him (twin peaks season one set, fwwm dvd, the art of david lynch dvd) so they can see that he works on intuition, not rationality. so as i said, it's dream-sense. he is figuring out and exploring his movies at the same time you are. i would say to get a clear picture of his work, you have to know the many sides of it/him. optimus: not funny.
eraserhead the elephant man blue velvet twin peaks wild at heart twin peaks: fwwm lost highway the straight story mullholland drive
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 06:53 [#00609158]
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as far as mullholland drive goes, try to remember people that it was intended to be a tv show before abc gave it the axe. as far as i can see, his pruning things down to 2 hours while maintaining cohesion (which it does, sorry if you don't get it) just shows me even more how amazing his work is, that he could condense such a large package.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-03-22 07:10 [#00609163]
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i have been trying desperately to get a copy of eraserhead so i can FINALLY see it, im obsessed with this movie even though i have yet to see it!
libraries dont have it, my video store doesnt have it, i think im just going to buy it!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 07:15 [#00609166]
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yeah... my friend got the short films dvd, and for any hardcore lynch fan, it is DEFINATELY worth it. they gave eraserhead the same treatment, so i would say go for it!
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-22 07:16 [#00609168]
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the scenario is great, i had no problem understanding it
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-03-22 07:16 [#00609169]
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thanks, will do
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-22 07:17 [#00609170]
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eraserhaead is so much far better than mulloland drive tho
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 07:17 [#00609171]
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glasseater: good man!
forck: let me know how it is...
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-22 07:20 [#00609173]
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my favs lynch are eraserhead, the elephant man and lost highway, blue velvet and twin peaks
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 07:24 [#00609175]
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elephant man... nice. dont hear alot of people say that. i agree. hopkins was da bomb (as seen in charles d ward's avatar, for those who haven't seen it)
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-22 07:29 [#00609181]
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one of the only good thing about "from hell" the movie about jack the ripper, was to see the elephant man colored. nice add it made me smile
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 07:31 [#00609182]
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yeah, it was a nice reference to the time period, as well as kinda nodding at lynch
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Charles D Ward
from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-03-22 14:35 [#00609838]
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lynch!
could someone please post a divX version on a ftp for your old buddy?
:>
because I won't ever get my hands on a dvd here >:(
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 14:41 [#00609850]
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tell me thats not what i think it is.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-22 15:03 [#00609903]
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Tibbar! you seem to know a lot about lynch! i think elephant man is wery underrated 2.
ok unenlightened people, a lot of mullholland drive makes perfect sense... i'm too tired to explain it, but consider this while seeing it: many of the scenes have a dreamlike sense too them. there might be a point in this... (HINT HINT!!!) and a point in seeing a woman twisting and turning in a bed at the wery beginning of the film...
about the cafeterie scene, i think the bum is a symbol of the underlying "evilness" troughout the dream. the suppresed evil feelings. He also unleashes the two old people that drives the blond crazy in the wery end, and has her shoot herself.....
lost highway is about a man that can't escape his own life pattern, even in the extreme event that he takes the shape of another person!!! the woman he adores/hates is still the same actor... the small man is the devil/ a demonic character that torments him with this troughout the movie. this might also be an analogy of the whole buddhist thought (or something similar) that all living is pain, and the same things also happen again and again in an endless spree of pain.
phew!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 15:09 [#00609917]
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yeah, i thought the bum was all too OBVIOUSLY satan or something like that.
wow. you get it, dude. congrats! not alot of peeps do. you'd think anyone who likes autechre would, but hey! hhehe.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 15:13 [#00609929]
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when a man is sentenced to death, he is taken somewhere he cannot escape, never knowing when an assasin will step up behind him and fire a bullet into the back of his head.
it's been a pleasure talking to you.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-22 15:16 [#00609935]
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I like david lynch films - I don't like people who think they're weird
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 15:17 [#00609938]
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yeah... whats THAT all about? i guess if deep and dreamy means "weird". i think lynch's reality is more real than most peoples...
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-22 15:18 [#00609940]
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Thats from lost highway right?
Yeah! i'm surprised some people say mullholland drive contains no meaning apart from the surreal. i think its open and debatable, but theres no question in my mind that the first hour and 30 minutes is the blondes dream/fantasy, as so endlessly many things imply this. She dreams herself as a great actor, the director who stole away the girls shes in love with is humiliated and so on and so on. in the theater, shes waking up, and the last part is dream/fantasy. when she is a waitress its reality! also notice how she can't imagine when shes masturbating... wery fascinating.
but thats how i look at it!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 15:20 [#00609944]
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agreed.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-22 15:28 [#00609952]
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Tibbar, you are a good person. any lynch knower is a friend of mine.
YEAH! YEAH! Pigeons spread diseases. You've seen that. YEAH!YEAH!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-22 15:30 [#00609962]
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MAH DAWG... BARKS!... some...
mentally, you picture my dog, though i have not told you what type of dog it is that i have. you may even picture toto, form the wizard of oz. i ASSURE YEW MAH DAWG is always with me.
WOOF WOOF WOOF
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