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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-13 08:51 [#00593480]
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Suppose I would try to tape a live show with my Sony MZ N1- MD Recorder. What tips would you give me?
*What mic *Where to stand *Smuggling tips *Anything else you can think of
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-13 09:08 [#00593514]
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lots of venues have different sound depending on where you stand
probably in the middle or so of the arena or floor, not on either side (left or right)
small recorder, put it in your pants region, near crotch, may have to walk funny getting in the doors or tape it to your leg, if found it may not be yours anymore :0[
tell the peeps around you not to talk just clap at the appropriate times :0]
WHAT SHOWS YA GOING TO ?
good luck
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-13 09:15 [#00593523]
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Hiding- gaffer tape it to the inside of the top of your leg. Make sure you know where the buttons are by touch- otherwise you'll look like you're having a fiddle when trying to turn it on.
Get a female mate to do it- they're not so keen to search girls as most venues lack female bouncers.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-13 09:19 [#00593529]
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girls and their purses ALWAYS get searched here
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2003-03-13 09:21 [#00593533]
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the sound is allways best near the engineer.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-13 09:25 [#00593540]
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Yeah, just ask the sound engineer when his bootleg will be on-line.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-13 09:28 [#00593545]
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hahahahah, i wish that were the case
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-13 09:28 [#00593546]
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Yes, but their inner thighs don't ;)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-03-13 09:32 [#00593556]
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i wish i was a female security guard
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-13 11:38 [#00593739]
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What kind of mic would I use?
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-13 14:16 [#00593966]
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small descrete one, i guess.
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2003-03-13 14:22 [#00593973]
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if you use a minidisc, just bring it in like you just listened to some tracks but when the show starts put your headphone plug in the mic-jack of your md and use yer headphones as a stereo-mic.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-13 14:23 [#00593975]
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yeah, surely they cant take it off of u for no (apparent) reason.
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2003-03-13 14:35 [#00593993]
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exactly!
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2003-03-13 15:20 [#00594029]
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do you have a stereo hi-fi microphone?
most are small enough to be taped on your leg and what not... but for recording the show.. you'd prolly have to have the mic out and about... you NEED a stereo microphone... otherwise it'd be mono... and that would just be crap! ah!
like recycle... what show?
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magiker
from Östersund (Sweden) on 2003-03-13 15:55 [#00594050]
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I've recorded with a MD once, with an expensive stereo mic that could be set to either 90 or 120 degrees "view". Turned out well. Perhaps tape the mic to you wrist and pull your shirt up and lean against something.
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-13 16:52 [#00594080]
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Well, any show I'd visit without running any risk of losing my MD recorder of course, but I was thinking of this one...
Not that many shows in and around Holland you know :-(
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-03-13 17:46 [#00594114]
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i'm planning on bootlegging the plaid show me and a couple of members are gonna be at. i was planning on keeping the recorder/microphone in my hood while i'm not wearing it as i walk in, transfer it too my pouch inside
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-13 17:53 [#00594115]
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just what i was looking for... i'd like to record a gig here and there i really don't know anything about this things-is DAT recorder any good? is there any good alternative to it?
i have absolutely no idea about this hehe are dat recorders difficult to use?
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 00:50 [#00594376]
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Aren't DAT recorders BIG?
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2003-03-14 00:56 [#00594378]
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yeah vhs-type cassettes... not portable..
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2003-03-14 09:40 [#00595369]
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dat tapes are the same size as normal tapes, and im sure there are portable versions around. they would be damn expensive though.
the big vhs style dat tape is called ADAT and is used for multitracking. 8 channels per tape.
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-14 17:10 [#00595926]
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Any more tips on microfone use? Does anyone of you guys own a stereo mic? What type? Costs? Etcetera
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-14 17:32 [#00595946]
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i was thinking of this-not totally sure what it is tho :)
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2003-03-14 22:56 [#00596050]
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nah... DAT tapes are SMALLER than cassette tapes!
"ADAT" tapes mostly by Akai are a different kind of thingy but the same size as VHS tapes!
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2003-03-14 22:57 [#00596051]
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yuikes... i need to read further than where my cock points!
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-15 04:07 [#00596177]
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Looks good... Tolstoyed
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nacmat
on 2003-03-15 04:23 [#00596181]
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but whats the point in recording life... I mean the cuality would be sooooo bad anyway
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-15 07:38 [#00596320]
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To me it's not only the quality that matters. I've been to the WARP lighthouse party and wass quite impressed by the BoC life performance. The way they perform their songs sometimes quite different from how they appear on their albums.
(had a somewhat disappointing experience with funkstorung when we saw them at the Paradiso in Amsterdam. We went up to the balcony and could see them playing MP3 tracks and fiddling a bit with a synth, but that was all they did)
Some artists tend to go the extra length to impress people with their songs at life performances and since I don't live near London or any other place where good music kicks the shit out of everyone i DO like to hear livesets from around the world.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-03-15 07:48 [#00596326]
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DAT's.... Mmmmm :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-15 07:51 [#00596331]
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best choice?
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-16 08:27 [#00597413]
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I don't know the specfics of DATrecorders but things like length always come up.
I don't know hum much you can squeeze onto a DAT tape but I really like my MZ N1 MD Recorder (NO I'm not sponsored by sony!) and the fact that you can fit your MP3's on there. Its small and pretty extremeshockproof. Pretty powerful machine. I don't know if you need extra utilities to manage DATrecordings.
And prizes do matter I think.
For how much do these things change owner?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-16 08:28 [#00597414]
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i have no idea
which one is better for recording sound samples? i have no idea about this things, but im getting dat or md recorder...
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-03-16 11:56 [#00597682]
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DAT is without compression, but it?s magnetic tape and tape sux... An MD is almost undestroyable and can be erased/recorded on for one million times... For longer (lo quality) recordings MD longplay is great (5 hours stereo!) Get yourself a md, even the pro uses them nowadays...
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-17 03:25 [#00598940]
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Can anyone recommend me a specific mic? *price *portability *brand
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-17 05:27 [#00599140]
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Lazy Loeser did some research: Live Recording tips Live recording tips 2 Lots of other Minidisc tips target="3">Give your headphones more oomph
target="4">In-ear microphones (?)
T Style Stereo Mike for MiniDisc (.99 DIY) Another mic (very small)
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-03-17 17:02 [#00600783]
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I got the T-style sony mic, it?s ok - but you have to get a longer cord for - it hasn?t got any - cause if you are recording some low sounds you will get the md mechanism-sound recorded too, not that good. I?ve recorded a lot of concerts with mine and transfered it to cd afterwards with great result.
The "in-ear" mics are something special - gives SUPERIOR 3D stereo - a really amazing experience. (Those are in line to be bought by me) Don?t know if it will make sense on a concert, though - best suited for environments and such, I guess...
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loeser
from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-18 01:17 [#00601291]
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how much did you pay for it?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-18 02:01 [#00601347]
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If I ever stumble across a cheap 2nd hand dat recorder a pair of in ear mics are the next in line on my purchase list :)
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-18 02:07 [#00601357]
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Fucks sake. Just walk in with the headphones on your head, i've done that so many times and bootlegged loads of gigs.
They wont take it off you if they think youre just listening to tunes..
Next month's bootlegging hitlist.... kid koala, death in vegas, plaid, chris clark, team doyobi, meam, the white stripes, four tet, boom bip, buck 65.
woop-woop!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-18 02:19 [#00601373]
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I'd be interested in hearing the kid koala and DIV ones :)
They also can't "confiscate" anything, they can only chuck you out if you get caught :) I'm not sure of the legality of them making you wipe your recordings, but I imagine they'd need some sort of court order to do it. A bouncer snatching your MD and snapping the disk in it is definately not allowed.
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-03-18 09:16 [#00602069]
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The T-style mic was 80 euros... (now you can get it for maybe 65... But the in ear ones - without the pre-amp is 80 here - I would get that one instead)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-18 09:27 [#00602094]
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id just walk in pist and like a nightclubber (ive got this down pat)
with the damn thing in my baggy trousers
and if that failed id go elsewhere to talk to some foxy ladies
word!
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