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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 07:07 [#00591532]
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I'm planning on buying some cd's of Steve Reich, Philips Glass, Eric Satie and Brian Eno (i know Eno doesn't really fit in there (some will say: 'Glass neither'), still i want some of his stuff too...)
so my question is:
Could you recommend one album by each artist, so that i know which ones to get first?
Thx in advance :)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 07:08 [#00591533]
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Philips=Philip :D
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-03-12 07:09 [#00591535]
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good topic!
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-03-12 07:09 [#00591536]
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Steve Reich - Music for 18 musicians Brian Eno & Harold Budd - The Pearl
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-12 07:19 [#00591550]
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Steve Reich: Get Works (yep that's the 50th anniversary 10 CD Box Set with almost everything he's ever done!) very good buy! It's my bible!
Otherwise I'd say Music 4 18 musicians is a must. But get hold hold of the EMI recording not the Nonesuch as it's supposedly waaaay better.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-12 07:21 [#00591552]
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*rumages in CD collection for good Reich albums*
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-12 07:23 [#00591557]
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Get the "Reich Remixed" album- steve reich remixed by coldcut, freq nasty, dj spooky etc. very accessible. Then get music for 18 musicians.
Tony: Didn't know about works... can you get that on vinyl? :D
Get Satie's early piano works, look out for the recording where the tracks lengths are 2/3s as long as the other one. The longer one isn't as good.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-12 07:28 [#00591573]
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I'm still not sure what I think of Reich Remixed. I love the Piano Phase mix though. I'd love to hear some remixes of him by autechre, aphex, the orb, and the usual crowd... oh well dream on Tony! Mind you, the orb have used reich material in their stuff, in fact they were one of the first to do so.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 07:36 [#00591592]
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what about eno, is 'music for airports' a good recommendation?
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-12 07:37 [#00591595]
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I can't really get into him at the moment. I'd say 'apollo' is a safe bet though.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-12 07:39 [#00591597]
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Aphex was asked apparently...
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-12 07:42 [#00591603]
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yeah I heard that too. But I was under the impression that he's not a fan of Mr.R. despite the similarities between their work. :(
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HeWhoCannotBeNa
from -qp- (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 07:43 [#00591607]
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Huge reich fan myself...better leave the Remix record alone...it´s not worth the money, get the originals. My personal favorite is eight lines.
Even more interesting is Terry Riley's in C...try and get a hold of the version on a label called Wergo
Morton Feldman is worth checking out too...it´s more minimal and a little less energetic, more romantic
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 07:50 [#00591626]
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thanks all :)
what about Glass..? i have his 'solo piano', it's nice imo also got Glass' 'songs', it's a compilation of liquid days and some other stuff if i remember well..
nobody seems to be into Glass ey?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 07:51 [#00591629]
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i don't have any albums of the other artists i mentioned, so don't think: he already has albums and this topic is nonsense :)
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HeWhoCannotBeNa
from -qp- (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 07:54 [#00591636]
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I have that cdboxset as well...awesome. Escpeciallysuprised by his early tape work like 'it´s going to rain'
Eno's Ambient 4 On Land is a great record. Music for airports by BOAC is nice as well.
Don't know about Glass, only have a copy of the photographer...i'm not impressed
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-03-12 08:00 [#00591645]
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morton, i love music for airports and philip glasses piano works.
steve reich did not float me boat at all.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 10:11 [#00591901]
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hey i just got home with eno's 'discreet music' and 'find candace' by vsnares
i think i'll put that 'discreet music' on when i go to bed tonight :)
(and 'find candace' to wake up tomorrow :) )
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 10:15 [#00591912]
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i also ordered 'music for airports' and 'music for 18 musicians'
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-12 10:21 [#00591919]
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Reich just makes me soooo happy! He never fails! :)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 10:24 [#00591927]
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i just read a review on almostcool.org, 'music for 18 musicians' is considered amazing :) get's an 9.25 rating
i'm looking forward to it :)
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Dozier
from United States on 2003-03-12 10:29 [#00591936]
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Glass has a great ability to extract deep emotion using minimalism and repetition. I really like his stuff a lot. Haven't heard 'Music For 18 Musicians' yet, though. I'll have to check it out.
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Clic
on 2003-03-12 10:53 [#00591956]
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Ambient 4 is good.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 10:58 [#00591959]
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Reich's tapeworks ("come out to show them", "its gonna rain") are incredible.
The Works set is great, too.
I'd also recommend "City Life", a piece he made in '96 with lots of samples and orchestra.
actually, I'm going to a performance of "City Life" in about an hour. :)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 11:13 [#00591971]
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hey, have a good time :)
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-03-12 11:24 [#00591980]
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Steve Reich is great!!! Listen to "Electric guitar phase" - that?s something to play airguitar to!
All phased Reich works are amazing. Electric counterpoint was sampled by the orb on little fluffy clouds an on the live version o.o.b.e (says much about their own abilities as muscians & composers I must say)
New york counterpoint (played by one member of BOAC) are one special favorite - when the bass clarinet kicks in it?s total bliss... Great music.
Reich CDs to get is - all of them! "Triple quartet" "18 musicians" + "Drumming" (the german version is a bit 70?s noisy - but much longer! + gives you additional tracks!) are great cds to start with.
"Reich remixed" sux BIG time, really shows how strong Reich own original music really is.
For Eno I would recommend "Airports" + "Ikebukuro" (From "the shutov assembly"), Neroli and "On land"...
For Glass - I don?t know really... I only CD I got where he is involved is donkey rhubarb by aphex, his remix doesn?t impress me much...
qrter - I envy you.... hoping you will have a great time!
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HeWhoCannotBeNa
from -qp- (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 13:25 [#00592191]
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Yeah i envy him too...it's in the Concertgebouw...and i read about the performance a couple of months ago, but complety forgot about it...oh well.
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bird
from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2003-03-12 14:17 [#00592312]
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there are many satie recordings... of the ones i've heard, i like Anne Queffelec (< not so sure about the spelling...)
Make sure you get a good recording though...... its hard choosing cds with 'classical' composers, cos of the different performers.............................
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-12 15:03 [#00592381]
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and if you have a really good hifi avoid remastered classics like the plague. They always turn out fuzzy and need the volume up a max just to hear normally.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 15:03 [#00592382]
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thx again for all the advice :)
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-12 15:12 [#00592392]
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no problem man, hope you enjoy your new purchases.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-12 15:57 [#00592429]
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right! I'm back.
actually, it was at Muziekcentrum Vredenburg here in Utrecht, HeWhoCannotBeNamed. :)
the Schonberg Ensemble played Reich's "City Life" and "Triple Quartet" and John Adams's "Gnarly Buttons" and "Chamber Symphony".
City Life was great, although the samples were a bit soft in the mix. still, what a great piece.
I thought Triple Quartet was okay, Reich IS very good at snare instruments.. didn't really float my boat though.
Adams' Gnarly Buttons had one good part and two lesser parts, even sofar as to be kind of cheesy.
I did really like Chamber Symphony, very funny!
the ensemble was great, they were really having fun playing this music, which is such a relief after seeing quite a lot of sour-faced orchestra-members.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-12 16:29 [#00592462]
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yes I was going to mention John Adams. Also someone well worth investigating. I was planning to see a performance of '18 musicians' in london in may actually.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-13 02:09 [#00592880]
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Can anybody tell me which is the 'official' release of 'music for 18 musicians'? (or which one to get..)
this one
or this one
or this one
thx :)
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2003-03-13 02:22 [#00592888]
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the last one is the original from the 70's and that's the only one i've heard...
i like it very much but it requires a certain mood when listening to it... because it is one 50+ minute long composoition based on one rhythmic pulse... i can see why some people don't like it at all.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-03-13 02:25 [#00592890]
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here's my fav eno cd's you can pretty much pick from this: pearl, airports, discreet music, apollo, plateaux of mirror
those are all good starting points
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-13 02:25 [#00592891]
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I've heard they don't always "pull it off" quite to the standard of the EMI recording- it's obviously quite hard to play out of phase...
That said, I'd love to check out a performance of it.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-13 02:26 [#00592893]
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Don't get any of that self - indulgent twaddle. Get Kiss "Destroyer" instead and rock your ass off.
"GONNA LOSE YER MIND IN DETROIT RRROCK CITTY!"
fucking class
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-13 02:33 [#00592897]
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hi bill :)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-13 02:35 [#00592902]
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stupid me, now i see tonyfish's first post here, sorts things out :)
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-13 05:09 [#00593157]
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glad to be of service :)
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-03-13 07:30 [#00593340]
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Morton: Reich himself is probably playing on both the nonesuch and the ecm recording, together iwth his own ensemble, but he?s not playing on the rca release (due to contract restrictions). I would love to compare them all three - but right now I only got the rca recording (sounds ok, horrible cover though, I made my own ; )
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-13 08:46 [#00593472]
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I have the Nonesuch and it's good but I've heard great things about the ECM so I must get my hands on it!
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-03-13 09:27 [#00593543]
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Mm, me to - of course I want something with the man himself on!
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