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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-06 04:54 [#00582808]
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I am in the planning stage of my new project, "6 Games of Chess". Well, from that, I imagine you can guess the concept - yes, it is to make music out of chess games. That is about as far as I've got, and there's quite a few perameters there to be filled in, so any suggestions would be welcome. First, we have the 8 letters and 8 numbers of the board, then we have the pieces:
1 white king 1 white queen 2 white bishops 2 white knights 2 white rooks 8 white pawns
& vice versa for black. Then, we have the kingside and the queenside castling, the check and checkmate, the enpassant taking technique, normal taking, we have the promotion of the persistent pawn, we have stalemate, and we have a draw. That's all the perameters I can think of right now...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-06 05:06 [#00582814]
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Perhaps,
X co-ords= pitch Y co-ords= length of note Each piece is a different instrument.
Sample for check/checkmate etc?
Maybe use famous chess games moves lists?
When a piece moves over square, perhaps it should slide through a scale of those notes? If this was implemented it may affect the choice of instrument for the pieces.
Perhaps make each of the pawns a different bit of the drum kit?
Maybe you'd need several games to make a full track?
Perhaps cut back to key points of the match and play them out differently.
I like chess so I'd be up for a colaboration on this one.
Maybe even play the games of chess against you for the source?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-06 05:07 [#00582815]
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Oh yes and when a piece takes another, vocoder the two sounds of the pieces together and play a loud minor chord using the resultant sound...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-06 05:13 [#00582821]
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Some interesting ideas Ceri - I was going to use some Grandmaster games that I have on my PC as the games...I like the idea about the percussion/pawn arrangement too. I also mused on the instrument-to-a-piece thing, but wasn't sure if it would work well---as a concept yes, but the piece might sound completely crap, but that's just a thought.
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-03-06 05:15 [#00582822]
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Really nice concept, marlowe. I like Ceri's view on it and I really don't have much to add. First thing that pops into mind is maybe to try create waveforms that 'looks' like how your chesspieces are on the board after a certain move.
Would you please update me/us how things are evolving?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-06 05:27 [#00582843]
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Perhaps make reference to the squares of a chessboard- use an 8/8 structure or perhaps 64 (damn, I forget what the smallest measures are called) in a loop?
The problem with pure concept things is that they often require tweaking to get them to sound right, even if there are only one or two bits that sound of. However, when you start doing this it ceases to be a pure concept :S
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-03-06 05:31 [#00582846]
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dude...I will seriously try this out...or at least try to try it
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-06 05:31 [#00582848]
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Yup I know what you mean - if you listen to some older Baroque music, you'll hear that they apply some rules rigidly which results in disconsonant sounds. But, I won't be bending any rules in this concept - any rules layed down will be adhered to strictly. :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-06 05:33 [#00582850]
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I know it's not usually included in chess program recordings, but perhaps you could work in how long players took per move into it somehow? Imagine the fast pawns at the start and the rapid movements of an end game...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-06 05:40 [#00582860]
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ah. that gives rise to an idea. Since, in Sonata form there are usually three movements, and since in chess there are three movements (ie Opening, Middlegame, Endgame) that would indicate a link...Especially since the movements mirror each other somewhat--quick opening movement, slow middle movement, quick end movement...very good!
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