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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 03:20 [#00572667]
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that makes you love it? i was thinking about this last night when i was trying to fall asleep (and i was dead tired) with that live squarepusher cd-i was awake untill the cd finished, it was just impossible not to think of what this guy is doing.
i like idm because of the music itself-im sure this is the case with all of you that like idm, but i often read reviews about this music (by music critics) and they all speak pretty high of it even if it is not they favourite genre.
so perhaps my question would have to be-what is the value of idm music?
for me the value of the certain music is that it doesnt get outdated-i mean music i can listen to after ten years and it still blows my mind away. it is also pretty good if it doesnt bore me (it happens a lot), and idm pretty much keeps my mind occupied...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 03:25 [#00572672]
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It's techno, I love techno. But it's interesting, different and real. (most of the time) A good example of why I'm here would be Caustic Window.
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-02-27 03:28 [#00572674]
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nout outdated is a very good description, you can't put it in a style, IDM is just a definition, but not a style direct, what squarepusher is doing is more sound-science mixed experimental rhythm jazz music, i can't even describe an IDM track, it's more lifestyle you know. the reviews are lame sometimes ... IDM is the pioneer art in todays electronic music.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 03:29 [#00572675]
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caus its great music
and i truly hope it wont go mainstream, caus that would fuck things up real bad (mu ziq the best of at the grocery store, overproduced crap, seeing idm all the time on mtv)
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 03:29 [#00572676]
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yah the diversity is what i like about it...
you cant really put yer finger on it
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-02-27 03:31 [#00572677]
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it won't go mainstream, as long the mass are still thinking with eyes and not with ear and brain.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 03:31 [#00572678]
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Dude, that will never happen. The worst it would get is Madonna trying to get a trance twat to emulate the style on her new single. Music is an example, listen to how close to windowlicker it gets in places.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-27 03:33 [#00572680]
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after a prolonged jam, fucked up electro makes house music and normal techno feel like crisp airconditioning
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 03:34 [#00572681]
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you mean tie another day?
MAAAAN
i was at the movies, die another day (liked it, as shallow as a puddle but great effects and all) and i almost forgot about madonnas song, but then all of a sudden that annyoing voice kicked in
i wanted to mutilate myself
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-02-27 03:36 [#00572682]
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idm is a lifestyle.
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-02-27 03:37 [#00572683]
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braindance is a lifestyle too.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-27 03:39 [#00572684]
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the lifestyle is killin me :/
im getting 'bags under my eyes the size of canada'
man i dropped out of uni cos i was too busy jamming :)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-27 03:39 [#00572685]
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thats just a standard artist thing tho isnt it.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-27 03:40 [#00572686]
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dude, youre the michael jackson of electro.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 03:43 [#00572688]
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idm fucked me up pretty good, i remember i used to like some pop music as well, but since im into idm i cant really listen to pop music, i mean i like a song here and there, but only for a short period
example-when i get to hear a new idm track i can listen to it on repeat like 100 times (im doing it right now hehe) and it hits me each time
but whenever i listen to some pop tune i get a feeling its kind of shallow-and dont get me wrong, i dont think this just because its pop, but it really bore me and i usually cant give it a listen more than once...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 03:44 [#00572690]
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lets make idm gear so we can all recognise eachother and noone will know about us
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nacmat
on 2003-02-27 04:04 [#00572714]
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idm is good cos it is not made to sell lots of copies , it is made just in search of good music... so normally it becomes good music
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-02-27 06:34 [#00572874]
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I have the same feeling. I guess it has someting to do with the feeling that IDM has opposite to 'normal' music.
I like IDM 'cause almost every album sucks you deep into it. You listen to popmusic, you expierence IDM.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-27 06:42 [#00572888]
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I can never fall asleep to music unless it's violently ambient
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-02-27 06:42 [#00572889]
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what? wrong!
idm gets outdated very quickley! the whole point of avant guarde music is to be new and original, and in a genre that evovles as fast as idm does, it is the genre most suseptable to aging......think about it, a rock hit from the 60s can still be played today amongst todays rock and i for one cant tell the difference, but idm from 1990 is unlistanable...or is it just me?
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 06:43 [#00572890]
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i reckon its because it doesn't have a specific style. it can be anything, and is a really forward thinking "thing." it is constantly reinventing itself as a genre. saw 2 is idm, so is go plastic and so is wevie stonder. but they all sound different to each other. house is house but idm is always mutating into something new. drill n bass, glitch etc, etc
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-02-27 06:45 [#00572893]
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nope sorry, idm to me doesn't age. i luv it all. i can listen to an idm song over and over even after ive bought 5 new cds. it seems to me your looking for sumthing in idm. ur waiting for sumthing new and original but you don't realize its all different and original.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 07:03 [#00572909]
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i guess rock cm be compared to idm in terems of aging-i mean people into rock music can listen to 60's rock (some of those songs i like myself)
but it is the same with idm (for me)-i love the releases from 10 years ago aswell as the new ones
but compared to pop music-i dont know any people into pop music that stll listen to pop music that was on top 10 years ago...
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-02-27 07:10 [#00572924]
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i say '10 years ago' but im still thinking its the nineties, like 2000 onwards is an extension of the decade.....and old pop is better than new, thankyouverymuch :P
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-02-27 07:11 [#00572926]
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no way man, you can experience michael jackson's stuff, waaay!
idm...i like party idm the most idm you can dance to coz it's dancy and also has tons of detail t spoil your ears with
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-27 08:33 [#00573048]
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A lot of it has to do with the lack of lyrics for me... I'm very picky, most words and singers tend to turn me off. Sometimes I really just don't want to hear people. Weird reason.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 08:38 [#00573061]
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yeah mr iain...
i can listen to both jake slazenger as tim tetlow, imo idm is something that doesnt age...
i think i can still enjoy my copy of lunatic harness in the year 2030 (if there will still be cd players of course)
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-27 08:46 [#00573075]
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a bad singer can completely ruin a band
* thinks of peach
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 09:15 [#00573099]
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I can't fall asleep to electronica,because it seeks so music attention,its not background music .
I even tried falling asleep to ageatis byrjun last night,didn't work,I was grinning beyond control at its beauty.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-27 10:13 [#00573186]
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i love it cos i'm a sheep in reverse, i like what other nerds tells me to like
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-02-27 10:26 [#00573206]
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Opchecks....
i agree. i find myself getting really annoyed at lyric-based music too. It nails a song down into too much of a fixed idea. I like radiohead cos its mood driven and the lyrics are so abstract they don´t make the songs too stagnant....
The electronica i listen too seems to always change . its stimulating. pop isn´t
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-27 10:31 [#00573211]
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songs in pop structure are inherently stimulating, you just turn a deaf ear to the genre cos the songs they play on the radio are so mindless. that's like sayin' classical is catchier than pop.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-02-27 10:35 [#00573212]
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not catchier, being catchy is the whole point to pop music
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 10:36 [#00573215]
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im not big fan of classic music but i like piano classic music
to compare it with pop pop music kind of makes me nervous, probably because it bores me (not all pop music tho)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-27 11:07 [#00573237]
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as i said: turning a deaf ear toward a perfectly enjoyable, not to mention easy to find and easy to experience with others, form of music.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2003-02-27 11:21 [#00573261]
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check this 'ere out! ideas = here
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-02-28 15:08 [#00574848]
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hey! what are you real-naming me for!
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2003-02-28 16:09 [#00574925]
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It's aggresive, it's phuqqed up, it's beautiful, it's sad, it's happy - just the way life is.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-28 16:13 [#00574931]
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hey, you could say that for rock music aswell! :)
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-28 16:27 [#00574940]
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its just another form of emotive music, just like all genres thers quality and shite, its not just Idiot Dance Music,its everything, if it effects you, nobody else, then its good, end of.
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