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when drukqs was about to be released...
 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-14 19:31 [#00555669]
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man I have been searching the MB... I wrote drukqs and
searched by date... 1917 threads about it.... I want to the
first ones.... I ve read like 60 threads about drukqs from
those months before the release... and well, that was really
a total state of expectation.
now with 26 mixes we know what to expect, but in those days
people didnt know what the fuck was about to come...
then when it got released: dissapointment, astonishment...
everything... 1917 threads have been written about drukqs
since then

what do we think about drukqs almost 2 years later?
I think its a masterpiece


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-14 19:32 [#00555670]
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I want to the first ones =

I went to the first ones


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-14 19:34 [#00555672]
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I encourage you to that search... some threads are really
interesting as you see how much confusion there was around
here


 

offline kluizenaar from Netherlands Antilles on 2003-02-14 19:38 [#00555674]
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I have the promo cd,.but it didn't encourage me to purchace
the full release. Not even after listening to all of the
mp3z.

Personally I was dissapointed with it, maybe 'cause it was
overhyped and I expected to much of it. It's to much of a
strugle for me to get into as a whole.
A few tracks are good tho,..


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-14 19:39 [#00555675]
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i thought it was bollocks to start with. now i'm with you, i
think its brilliant. definately a grower. these kind of
albums usually stand the test of time.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-02-14 21:14 [#00555706]
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I also believe it's a masterpiece--like the culmination of
all his music beforehand.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-14 21:19 [#00555710]
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absolutely savage ;)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-14 21:20 [#00555711]
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absoultely savage, savage ;) :D!!!!!111


 

offline dan7250 from Osaka (Japan) on 2003-02-14 21:23 [#00555714]
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liked it then, like it now

one of my fav. aphex releases.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-02-14 21:24 [#00555716]
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:P nothing like a savage special! (response: and that was
nothing like a savage special boom boom!)


 

offline magnepitaph from United States on 2003-02-14 21:58 [#00555742]
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I don't know. Maybe I just haven't listened to it ENOUGH,
but I really don't think drukqs is all that great. I listen
it often, just to see if i'll one day figure it out. But i
still cant see how people think it's his masterpiece. It put
all the following above drukqs:

1. Windowlicker
2. I Care Because You do...
3. Hangable Auto Bulb 2
4. Selected Ambient Wrks 85-92
5. Richard D. James Album

Then probably come to daddy, and maybe then drukqs. I kind
of think that his "masterpiece" is a double album with disc1
as I care... and 2 as RDJ. Drukqs just seems I don't know,
so...exhausting? The drill n bass stuff just doesn't feel as
mindblowing as it dd when RDJ came out.

I'm thinking maybe dnb is just stuck in that inbetween
period, after when it still seems new and cool, but before
it gets the point where its nostalgically good (which things
like SAW have become).

Maybe in five years, when heavy drill tracks seem like retro
fun as stupid as that sounds, I'll be able to appreciate
drukqs more. But now, it just seems like a surprisingly
overlong and retroverted release for RDJ.

Sorry that was long, just been waiting till i'm bored enough
to type all this.
David.

P.s. I hardly hold the belief that everything listened to
must be something new and different. There is nothing wrong
with reveling in the past, I love it. Just somehow drukqs
doesn't feel like reveling in five years ago so much as it
feels like its wishing it to be five years ago. And somehow
i feel like that hurts everything about the album...


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-14 21:59 [#00555745]
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boom boom tchissssss ;)


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-02-14 22:08 [#00555756]
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I put ICBYD and SAW85-92 near the bottom of the pile. They
are dull insipid works not worthy of his signature. I spit
on them whenever I pass my CD collexion. I use their covers
to wipe up my jizm when I run out of toilet paper. I shit on
the CDs themselves when my toilet is filled up with
jizm-filled toilet paper!

But the ICBYD and SAW85-92 debate has been done many times
before.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-14 22:37 [#00555769]
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i wouldnt be that hurtful but i'd agree basically with what
you're saying


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-14 22:59 [#00555782]
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I loved it then, I love it now. Too much filler, but a lot
of it is killer.

Like Phyllis Diller.


 

offline PigeonSt from Detroit on 2003-02-14 23:39 [#00555788]
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Yeah when I got it I was kind of disappointed, but I grew to
like it a lot, one of my favorite releases of his. Not such
a turnaround as I had on vsnares' Higgins... but from o.k.
to really good is a bit of a change in opinion.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-02-15 00:28 [#00555794]
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I was hooked instantly. I think bbydhyonchord and avril14
we're the first ones i've heard. drukqs is easily one of the
greatest albums ever and a pure work of art.


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2003-02-15 00:41 [#00555796]
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Oh marlowe, how can you say such things? Sure, saw 85-92 has
its crap (ageispolis), but ICBYD... moo kid, alberto
balsalm, wet tip hen ax, acrid avid jam shred... classics.
And not crappy "classics" classics, like phloam and tamphex,
but the the first aphex tracks that really manifested raw
emotion and feeling that has become so distinctive...

I was listening to moo kid recently on the bus, and for a
moment, as I the setting sun cast a sublime magenta light
across the countryside, the light fracturing between the
trees on the crest of the hill, I was suddenly struck by its
awesome beauty...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-02-15 00:44 [#00555797]
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poor deluded chimp :P ICBYD is just so stagnant to me! :)


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2003-02-15 00:46 [#00555798]
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:)

thats alright, everyone has their own opinion


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-02-15 00:49 [#00555800]
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I'm an opinion thief--if I see a good opinion, I'm the first
to steal it ;)


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2003-02-15 00:49 [#00555801]
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bbydhyonchord was the first one i heard... and is one of my
favorites. i still cant fucking stand those piano tracks
tho....


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2003-02-15 00:49 [#00555802]
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:)


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-15 02:15 [#00555844]
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marlowe:

I think icbyd and saw 85-92 are not just the best of aphex
but also 2 of the most important releases of all times


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-02-15 02:18 [#00555846]
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i came here short after the release and didn't know what to
think of it first. it's my fav aphex now, i don't think
there are fillers in it, it just has an other flow in it

and i lo0ve that piano tracks, if i make a sampler for
friends i always put them in between. for every mood you can
find a piano track on druqks


 

offline Archrival on 2003-02-15 04:05 [#00555886]
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like I said before its his best release so far.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-02-15 04:15 [#00555895]
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pah!! ageispolis is among those tracks i listen to the most
on SAWI. the video is pretty nice too


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-15 04:17 [#00555896]
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video???
where can I get that?


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-02-15 08:05 [#00556073]
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I agree, my favorite when it came out and still favorite
release of his.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-15 08:07 [#00556077]
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always loved it and supported it and defended it and still
do...


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-15 08:07 [#00556079]
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today I have listened to:

drukqs cd1
classics
caustic window compilation
drukqs cd2

and it made a lot of sense


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2003-02-15 08:25 [#00556101]
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first time i listened to drukqs, i just listened to the
first 20 secs of each track, like i usually do, and was
dissapointed. then i listened properly and loved it. still
do. listened to all of cd1 this morning in fact. i dont care
what other people think of it, i like it, and thats good
enough for me.


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-02-15 09:07 [#00556135]
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Loses its appeal after the 100th listen.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-15 09:21 [#00556148]
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i think if it had been a single album i would have liked it
more

i much prefer his older stuff though


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-02-15 09:30 [#00556158]
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its the first release i witnessed and waited for...
all releases are strange somewhat...
i was very pleased when i got home, with my fresh copy of
these 4 lp´s and listened to them the 1st time after
waiting for so long... i been glad he did those fast
tracks...!!
i didnt appreciate the piano-songs at first but by now i
think they are fine, just pure feeling.

i remember a rumor that it was all afx-hoaxes on this
release, dunno if anyone took it serious...

its good and it differs a lot...


 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-15 10:09 [#00556187]
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Ijon I wouldn't not belive that rumour at all.But I could
see how it started because Its not full of obvious melodies
like most Twin stuff.
If it was a hoax(how could it be?) then however did it is
extremely talented.
Its his best works IMO.
It still can't figure out the programing on the whole
album..its genius.


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-02-15 12:45 [#00556278]
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drukqs was the first afx and the first idm i had heard at
all, i had not heard of it before i heard it and i gad a lot
of expectiaions while holding it in my hands for a minute or
2 before playing it...initial disappointment but i like it
now....i still think between half and a third of the tracks
are crap tho......i like the idea of piano tracks, but i
dont listen to them, they are too similar....i recommend it
as a starting place for someone wanting to know who afx
is......


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2003-02-15 12:53 [#00556287]
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they sound like really cheesy final fantasy songs, imo... as
i have said in the past, if moby had released the piano
tracks, would we still like them? would we just say "aww
that bastard moby with his shitty piano bullshit is a
disgrace to electronic music"? but aphex released them, so
no, it's...it's....BRILLIANT!

blah silly rant ends now :)


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-02-15 12:55 [#00556292]
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right, it is incredibly deep, tonepu5her.
i hoped he would do a bit like []-pusher,
or dnb his way and he showed off.
everybody saying it was hoaxes has no knowledge of music.

very big deal about this release is that you can play the
"fast" songs in various speeds. its like having two or three
songs in one, really genious-like.

to bob: i would recommend come to daddy e.p. and then rdj
album as a initiation to his stuff.
drukqs is way too much for newbies id say... you make a
outstand there having heard it before anything else...
respect anyway :P


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-02-15 12:58 [#00556296]
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moby isnt the only one with piano songs, but i really
commit, that if they werent on drukqs i woulndt have liked
them, for giving them not so many listens...

some make a good filler/chiller i say...



 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-02-15 13:05 [#00556310]
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well not classics anyway... i heard classics at exactly the
same time, i foolishly decided to listen to 1 drukqs track
then 1 classics then the 2nd drukqs and so on.....


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-15 17:43 [#00556499]
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but one thing is sure about drukqs:

is the album that has generated more different opinions,
reviews and critics

it really kind of divided fans into two groups


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-15 17:44 [#00556500]
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i could be in either one... :)


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-02-15 19:18 [#00556533]
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I love it.


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2003-02-15 23:44 [#00556662]
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to this day i cannot listen to avril 14th, nannou 2,
or....eeugh Kesson Daslef. they just really piss me off
whenever i hear them, i dont know why...


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2003-02-16 01:53 [#00556705]
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i love the albumn... in retrospect from today ..it really
is his best work


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-16 04:36 [#00556762]
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yesterday I started with drukqs cd1... then I did classics
and cwc, then drukqs cd2 then saw 85-92 and now sosw, then I
will do abb3

drukqs is special, anytime I listen to it, makes me wanna
listen to all the rest


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-16 18:37 [#00557701]
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drukqs stands tall


 

offline FullHouseSux from Bumfuk Egypt, OR (United States) on 2003-02-16 18:52 [#00557713]
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took me a while to get used to...but by far his best relase


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-16 19:01 [#00557720]
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i can only listen to drukqs when im in certain mood
but its great then...


 


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