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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-02-13 09:03 [#00553732]
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http://dirtyloop.com/cLOUDDEAD.html
there has been interest in this band, which cd do i start with ?
where a good place to go to listen to samples, what label are they on ?
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-13 09:05 [#00553735]
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www.hiphopsite.com
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-13 09:05 [#00553736]
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I thought cLOUDDEAD were a label?
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-13 09:07 [#00553742]
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nah.. it's annoying wannabe pretentious whiteboy shh
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-13 09:07 [#00553744]
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like.. if they knew what they were doing, they'd be in a coffee shop during open mic night
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-02-13 09:08 [#00553745]
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theo do you listen to three six?
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-13 09:09 [#00553752]
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nah, I dont think so ..
is he from anticon?
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-02-13 09:11 [#00553761]
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i wasn't sure if you liked rap, but three six mafia is a bunch of underground rappers. its the only rap i like
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-13 09:12 [#00553769]
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oh three 6 mafia.. nah, I'm not really into that dirty-south bounce type of hip-hop
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-02-13 09:15 [#00553778]
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rap sucks !! ill pass on this then
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-02-13 09:22 [#00553802]
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clouddead fuckin rules, they only have 1 album anyways, they have some vinyl only stuff but other than that only 1 cd and I think theres a peel session floating around too.
clouddead IS NOT on anticon, its on mush records but all 3 people on it(odd nosdam, why? and dose one are apart of anticon)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-13 10:33 [#00553923]
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even i recognize the difference between anticon and cLOUDDEAD... anticon really is "annoying wannabe pretentious whiteboy shh" as theo put it, but cLOUDDEAD's pretty awesome if you just don't think of it as hip-hop. most of it really isn't, except in name. i mean... i've heard radiohead songs that are more hip-hop than a lot of the cLOUDDEAD i've heard (and side projects).
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-13 11:38 [#00553975]
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i gave my cloudead cd to a friend in new york . i couldn't find much in the way of redeeming qualities and i listen to a wiiide range of music
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-13 11:46 [#00553987]
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i'd say that almost all the music on cLOUDDEAD has somewhat of a hip-hop element to it... you can clearly hear the hip-hop background, but i agree, this is not what i label hip-hop. it's just cLOUDDEAD.
for anyone who's often dissapointed by live "hip-hop", please don't miss a chance to see cD or themselves. some truly incredible stuff. among the most powerful live performances i've ever seen. the whole crew is great, live electronics, but specifically doseone really has the performer-audience resonance thing down. music's roots in shamanism comes through quite clearly at their shows. cD live is even quite danceable, if you could believe. much different tone than the studio biz.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-13 11:49 [#00553991]
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i think your comment is sort of pretentious. it's just music that you don't like.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-02-13 11:49 [#00553992]
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Teh cLoudead is so greta!!!111
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-13 12:07 [#00554012]
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I've actually never listened to them .. I just noted their connection with a redhead fatboy that looks like he writes code for a living from MAINE (listen, I know it's an artform, and is therefore "universal" - however one wants to justify it.. but come on.. let's put some limits on this.. if you're from maine, it's best to move before becoming a rapper [on another parenthetic tangential note .. a kid that lived down the hall from me last year had an old demo of his that began w/ him saying "this is some brooklyn shit" BROOKLYN he said.. fatass redhead computer geek from MAINE claiming brooklyn.. tsk tsk tsk]) anyway... where was I.. oh right.. clouddead.. I haven't listened to them yet.. and I'm just turned off by the whole soft, forced-sense-of-conflict and experimentalism of anticon-esque hip-hop.. it's liek these kids are trying to be more expressive w/ rap, which is good.. and as a way of doing this distance the production and lyrical content as far as possible from the fabolouses and the nellys of the industry.. but at the same time the 'hardness' and bravado that comes w/ the territory of having the 'rapper' label hasn't been shed in their minds yet.. it's like they feel they still have to inflect a certain way and carry a certain attitude w/ their rapping.. which sortof defeats the initial purpose of their mission as artists.. I don't know.. it just seems all very fake, self-conscious and laughable to me..
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-13 12:10 [#00554016]
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cLOUDDEAD are excellent. whoever above that was slating anticon, (theo?), is completely missing the point and allowing prejudice to blank out a world of music that is both very, very clever and extremely musical.
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2003-02-13 12:11 [#00554018]
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they are signed to Big Dada a sublabel of Ninja Tne
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-13 12:13 [#00554022]
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i'd have to agree with regarding most of anticon, i listen to very little fromt the label, but there is some genuine good music that isn't pretentious coming from some of those artists. and i think cD is not so heavy with the bullshit you get from certain releases by sole and friends.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-13 12:15 [#00554029]
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in other words the 'anticon' element that people dislike shouldn't be presumed to be the rule for all artists affiliated with the label.
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blash
from Tokyo (Japan) on 2003-02-13 12:47 [#00554045]
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I think I understand why people find anticon pretentious....in fact I agree with them in a way....on the other hand, those white kids are trying to do something different, which is always interesting, even if their music is not that good....about cLOUDEAD, I dont really like what they do, but once again it was an interesting attempt...most journalists didnt know how to label the record when it came out, which is often a good sign too..
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nene
from United States on 2003-02-14 11:14 [#00555202]
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I love the clouddead album. it's pretty weird, but they seem too concerned with making music to come off as pretentious. other anticon-related releases might be a different story, however.
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