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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-10 22:53 [#00550211]
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no need for chagrin here. Justified, although the title is a bit of a misnomer, is a good album.
the reason I own it: I told my sister about the Bjork box-set, and that I was thinking of getting it for her for christmas.. cut to x-mas day, there under the tree is a package To: her, From: a tiny picture of bjork giggling like a 4 year old that just played a mischevious joke on one of her friends. she uncovers the giftwrap to find j. timberlake staring back at her, backed with two empty 2CD jewel cases. no Family Tree (yet). she was pissed but appretiated the joke, based on the fact that we shared a secret liking for the "Like I Love You" single, and the one other track we had heard from the album.
saying you like this album does not make you an immediate n'sync fan though. what it does say, is basically that you like the neptunes, or timbaland who dominate the behind-the-boards presence of most of this album. timberlake is an expendable element on many tracks (that I've heard) all of the creative input comes directly from the neptunes, from the drum programming, to the melodies, to the lyrics and to the background "ad-libbing," which, had "Like I Love You" been say a toni braxton or ray-j track, would have neptunes' pharell williams speaking in justin's place. just try to picture it. basically, what n'sync's [unfortunate.. for us anyway] sucess and his boyish goodlooks earned timberlake was the opportunity to create a label money-maker in which he was able to say "Oh! I like such and such, or he's a good producer, I like him" and the labelheads weren't to disagree or try to pull any strings because, the neptunes/timbaland (moreso the former) have had such unbelievably auspicious careers as producers within the last 2 years. ..in the end, he and the label execs win.
let me get a chance to see what people have to say about this before I'm banned permanently, phobia
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-02-10 22:55 [#00550213]
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Oh, I'd appreciate Justin Timberlake...if he swallowed a pickle jar full of razor blades and choked on them...
And yes, you should be banned for this topic, crossword boy! >:(
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-10 22:56 [#00550215]
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the neptunes are great producers .. I wouldnt be saying this otherwise
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Verkrampte
from Renton (United States) on 2003-02-10 22:59 [#00550216]
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i agree with DaWeeze fully.. on another note, neptunes rule!
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-02-10 23:03 [#00550222]
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THE SPICE GIRLS COULD KICK TIMBERLAKES ASS
Word up
I really like Timbaland and the Neptunes production techniques/styles, that would be the only reason I would ever go about buying this album, some of those tunes are pretty rockin and catchy.
Justin Timberlake is a blatant Michael Jackson wanna be, -minus the dancing talent and creativity that Michael had/has
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-10 23:06 [#00550223]
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it really is some of the neptunes best material,, more developed then most of their "superthug"-rehashes at least. this is almost a followup N.E.R.D. album , channelling their music thru someone who's really going to earn money for it. and replacing pharell's weak vocal abilities
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 23:06 [#00550225]
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I like the dsico remix
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-02-10 23:08 [#00550226]
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Dsico is the the ultimate master of pop decontructional dsp fuckery mahem
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-10 23:11 [#00550228]
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word !
bit-meddler is not bad either with his shitmix ( on mu-allstars compilation I think )
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2003-02-10 23:35 [#00550235]
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BARF BARF BARF!
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Clic
on 2003-02-10 23:38 [#00550237]
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Where did you find that?
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2003-02-10 23:40 [#00550239]
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i don't remember actually!
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-02-10 23:40 [#00550240]
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Yea, that track was on the first Criminal Lp, the second (Criminal 02) just came out too, I cant wait to get it
Everynow and then I hear a pop song that I am really into and totally dig on... but then it gets played... OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGIAN.. until you just want to scream
:^/
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Clic
on 2003-02-10 23:42 [#00550243]
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Oh...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-11 00:13 [#00550248]
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dont hog the barf bag mate.. I gotta hurl like a motha fucka...
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-02-11 00:20 [#00550252]
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Theo didn't even spell "appreciation" right in his topic header....
He goes to prison!
:P
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-11 00:39 [#00550256]
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i hate timberlake
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-11 00:43 [#00550261]
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oops
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-11 00:44 [#00550262]
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it happens - as seen here - to the best of them
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-02-11 00:48 [#00550264]
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I really like Timberlake's music as well, and i think alot more of these people here would also like it if the guy hadn't been a part of 'n sync, but would just be some unknown debuting singer.
But yeah... great music (the two singles i've heard anyway, but i'm planning to give the entire album a listen).
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-11 00:53 [#00550267]
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well well, look who's here! mister "ooh-ooh-my-ears" ;)
guess it didn't reach the 100 surrounded..
WHOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
:DDD
:PPP
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-11 00:55 [#00550269]
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for what it's worth i agree w/ theo and furthermore want to mention that i doubt anyone on this thread has even heard timberlake's album, making their opinion about as useful as a britney fan's impression of matmos..
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-02-11 01:07 [#00550272]
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No prob, theo. Just joshing you.
;)
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-11 01:08 [#00550273]
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right right.. this is my point. it's the association with nsync that turns people away (it's also the reason many people that haven't heard any of the album) .. but there's no reason to turn away from this .. it's GOOD, believe it or not.. but that shouldn't be surprising if you like talented musicians like pharell williams.. this doesn't have to be a timberlake album at all.. he just happens to be the one these producers sold these tracks to. this could have been an usher album. it could have been a joy division album, it could be a crossover trent reznor album for that matter. basically, justin is the vocalist on some new, very good neptunes tracks
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-11 02:56 [#00550344]
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I have a lot of respect for his catchy rhythms and synth loops- I just dislike (most of) the artists he collaborates with.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-11 03:39 [#00550406]
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this thread might be more aptly-titled "the Justified appreciation thread" or "a testament to the deft producing abilities and talent of pharell williams and chad hugo"
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diablo
on 2003-02-11 03:40 [#00550409]
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I agree its good music, and that it could be anyone up front doing the singing. But that also means I can't appreciate Timberlake himself, he doesn't bring much to the package.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-11 03:44 [#00550422]
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tru. much of the reason he's in the position he is today anyway has more to do w/ his looks and how much 12 yr old girls are attracted to him than his charisma or anything else that would otherwise make him stand out. and that is very true for most people in that industry..
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-11 04:12 [#00550456]
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he doesn't bring much to the package
exactly, i bet he isn't even able to make a track himself, it's all done for him..
only thing he does is sing and appear in the videos .. it's exactly the same as all other commercial crap..
i really don't see how you could appreciate that
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-11 04:16 [#00550465]
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this thread might be more aptly-titled "the Justified appreciation thread" or "a testament to the deft producing abilities and talent of pharell williams and chad hugo"
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-11 04:19 [#00550472]
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haha ok i see it,
i'm often too lazy to actually read many other posts before posting myself
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-11 04:26 [#00550480]
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You can polish a turd but it's still a turd.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-11 04:34 [#00550492]
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speech is silver, silence is gold
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-02-11 08:58 [#00550852]
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"it's the association with nsync that turns people away"
Exactly, it's sad really. People heard justin was making a solo-album, and before they had even heard a single note of it, already said to themselves: "this can't be any good..."
I must admit i myself was also surprised when i heard the first single... but you've always got to keep an open mind imo. You might not expect good music from the singer of 'n sync, but if it turns out to be good after all... be willing to admit your expectations were wrong.
I had this exact same feeling of pleasant surprise when i heard "let me entertain you" by another certain artist for the first time...
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-02-11 09:00 [#00550855]
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i hope that was irony.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-02-11 09:02 [#00550861]
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"well well, look who's here! mister "ooh-ooh-my-ears" ;)"
lol, well well, if it isn't mister "ooh-ooh-my-cock" :-p
"guess it didn't reach the 100 surrounded.. "
hm... indeed. Better luck next time ;-) For make no mistake, i will make a thread longer than anything you've ever made :-p
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-02-11 09:06 [#00550878]
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"only thing he does is sing and appear in the videos .. it's exactly the same as all other commercial crap.. i really don't see how you could appreciate that"
But what does all that matter? Isn't it the music that counts? What if tomorrow some journalist will discover Aphex Twin is in reality a bald, fat and smelly guy in his late 40's who makes all this wonderful music.... and the bearded guy with the weird grin was just some actor Warp hired to appear in videos, on the covers and give interviews....
would that make you like this music any less? Even if it still sounds exactly the same as it does today?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-02-11 09:07 [#00550882]
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well, hope is important ;-)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-11 09:10 [#00550899]
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i've been waiting for this moment ever since i was a little boy
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-11 09:15 [#00550917]
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Damn, Damn, Damn. I misread this thread as Timberland!
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-02-11 09:19 [#00550938]
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I like the beat in the song that went like "I just wanna love you baby"
That's a catchy groove right there! *grabs a brush, holds it in front of his mouth and starts immitating mister jackson*
"I JUST WANNA LOVE YOU BABY!"
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-02-11 09:19 [#00550941]
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haha, yeah me too. I was gonna say: I like the song he did with Justin Timberlake...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-11 10:39 [#00551065]
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i heard that the timbaland tracks are even better than the 'tunes ones tho.
i must say, however, that the neptunes helped justin make a song that he wanted to sound like radiohead and mazzy star (this is "take it from me").
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-02-11 10:48 [#00551074]
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a solo album ?? lol does he maked the music ? he just was singing with his cat-whining voice ...
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-02-11 10:49 [#00551076]
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cat-crying
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-11 10:49 [#00551078]
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hahahh yeah.. he said he was trying to sing it "like Thom Yorke or [the guy from coldplay]" hmmm...
u should play 'take it from here' on next week's radio show ;) it is a good song
here..put on my jacket .. and then...
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loaderror
from kansas city (United States) on 2003-02-11 10:58 [#00551088]
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i like the neptunes beat for baby i got your money, but i didn't like the stuff on N.E.R.D. and i'm not willing to take the risk on picking this up unless i get motivated to granulate it all to hell
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-12 01:01 [#00551741]
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For make no mistake, i will make a thread longer than anything you've ever made :-p
LOL!!! :D :P
If i may give you some advice then surrounded... maybe you should start a topic called "Name 10 good things about Morton" .. i'm sure it'll reach the 1000+
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only suggesting :P
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-12 01:15 [#00551757]
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But what does all that matter? Isn't it the music that counts?
Yeah, but that still means that i don't (topic's subject:) appreciate J. Timberlake, 'cause he has got nothing to do with the music you hear in his songs. As theo himself mentioned well, appreciation should go out to the dudes who make the music imo (btw my aprreciation goes out to noneoftheabove 'cause i simply don't like it, but that's not the point ey?)
What if tomorrow some journalist will discover Aphex Twin is in reality a bald, fat and smelly guy in his late 40's who makes all this wonderful music.... and the bearded guy with the weird grin was just some actor Warp hired to appear in videos, on the covers and give interviews....
...well then appreciation should go out to the bald-fat-and-smelly guy, 'cause he makes the great music :)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-02-12 07:32 [#00552044]
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"If i may give you some advice then surrounded... maybe you should start a topic called "Name 10 good things about
Morton" .. i'm sure it'll reach the 1000+"
haha, don't think i'll fall for that ;-) Obviously you're intentionally giving me bad advice so that any topic i'll create will only get 1 post (my own) in them. :-p
Maybe i'll create a second account to help me get more responce in my own topics.................................... ;-)
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