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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-29 10:45 [#00533308]
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Initial views of this album are positive, if somewhat confused.
This is a very sonic album. The guitar crunch I was expected from some of their early bootlegs is lacking, but that isn't bad.
The talent is obviously miles deep, the fills and melodies are sweet and concise.
Billy Corgan has many voices, prolly 4 distinct and unique singing patterns, not included screaming. He only uses the melodic/talking one on this album. I prefer more variety from him, especially because he has the potential, but that is more personal.
I bought it with the DVD for $18.99, and I haven't watched it yet, but looks promising.
This is a B+ album in my mind, maybe it will grow on me more, or maybe the hype fucked with my head, but it is very very solid, not a strong recommend, but a recommend none the less.
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electro
from detroit on 2003-01-29 10:47 [#00533311]
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sorry to tell you that bestbuy is selling it for less!!!!!!!!!!
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-29 10:49 [#00533316]
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I supported my local music store. They had the non-dvd package for $15.99
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electro
from detroit on 2003-01-29 11:13 [#00533342]
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i support bestbuyheheheh with dvd 14.99
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-29 12:00 [#00533384]
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well, at that price, you can't afford NOT to buy it!
anyone else give a shit about this album?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-29 12:04 [#00533388]
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not me, sorry.. if it sounded more like slint or tortoise than smashing pumpkins i'd buy it.. but i stopped listening to SP in '97 or '98
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-01-29 12:08 [#00533394]
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im thinking of buying it, but im not sure im going to like what ill hear. i thought it was going to be a ROCK album, with a harder sound.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-29 12:12 [#00533399]
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i'll atleast give it a listen...
But i doubt i'll really like it as much as the smashing pumpkins. If i buy it, it'll be for nostalgic reasons.
I think the first single is okay... nothing more, nothing less. And i fear the entire album 'll be like that.
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2003-01-29 12:13 [#00533400]
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I like it a lot when I don't compare it to the Pumpkins. They may contain 2 members of the Pumpkins but they are a completely separate entity. I think the CD is great and their live show is incredible
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-01-29 12:19 [#00533409]
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yeah, that's pretty much how i feel. but maybe ill be pleasantly surprised.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-29 12:24 [#00533422]
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maybe...
stranger things have happened :-)
But still... i remember the first time i fell in love with the smashing pumpkins (seeing "bullet with butterfly wings" for the first time on tv). Now that was amazing! The song gave me goosebumps, the video was amesome and... well... you could just feel that this was an important song and that this would be the year of the smashing pumpkins :-) Something was in the air or something!
Zwan hasn't given me this feeling... so far
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-29 14:26 [#00533611]
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the few songs ive heard have been too similar to pumpkins. it sounds not too different from old pumpkins stuff if you ask me. i may get it but ill have to hear some more songs.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-30 11:27 [#00534707]
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yeah, just listen to a few more tracks, it really is not a similar album.
The only album I could see it compared to, is maybe, just maybe, kinda of like a Machina Lite. But good.
Really, it is sonic and happy, a proud production. Check out some more tracks, seems with the price @ BestBuy, WITH the DVD, you can't go wrong.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-30 11:54 [#00534721]
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unless you hate it like i prolly would.. i can't remember the last rock album i bought. prolly radiohead in 2001 if they still count.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-01-30 12:21 [#00534728]
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tits: you need to see the "Coheed & Cambria" thread
even YOU would prolly like that.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-31 12:50 [#00535534]
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the songs on this album sound poppy like sp's muzzle. in fact it reminds me of mellon collie somehow, if only because the songs are so damn catchy once again :)
the distortion on jesus i is even better than on siamese dream! all in all it's a fine album, hopefully the next album will have more depth. there are rumours of an all acoustic album to be released in the very near future.
right now i'm looking forward to zwan's cover of number of the beast which is a b-side.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-01-31 13:12 [#00535545]
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I'd give it a listen....."honestly" sounds pretty good does remind me of old SP..I did buy their last album which was good.....but i'll take your word for it if its good or not =)
<3
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Scabs Codeine
from L.A. (United States) on 2003-01-31 14:10 [#00535630]
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This review didn't treat the CD too well:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/z/zwan/mary-st ar-of-the-sea.shtml
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-01-31 14:38 [#00535661]
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pitchfork crucifies veteran artists for fun. i don't have high hopes for me personally enjoying the zwan album but even i wouldn't take that review seriously. pitchfork is a joke site.
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