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yeah, bush made his speach, it's on. horrible things are bound to happen... |
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bush can suck a dick. I would never die for fucking dick cheney's oil |
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all i could think of while listening to him talk ( i only caught the last 10 mins) is PROPAGANDA! it's insane how the population blindly believe in what is said during those speaches... |
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ahaha.. yeah "oh, and then, o-other int-telligence reports that umm.. reports that uhh.. like, they'll kill scientists if, y'kno like, they tell the UN weapons inspectors any-anything.. I'm SERIOUS!.. Ooh! and they're families TOO!.. they said they'd kill them and their families!" .. well, u can pretty much trust that to be the unquestionable truth, after all the PRESIDENT read-.. I mean said it |
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"u can pretty much trust that to be the unquestionable truth, after all the PRESIDENT read-.. I mean said it " funny, but true (and sad). |
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I wish I knew more about this whole situation, particularly the probability that I will be forced to go to war (drafted). I've thought that if I ever was forced to do kill fellow humans for someone else's motives, the best strategy on my part (a single pathetic individual) would be to shoot as many generals or whoever is in charge and forcing me as I can before myself. If every individual used this strategy, the power of the individuals would be much greater than the minority who are in control with the power. Course they were saying that due to the nature of this "war" a draft isn't necessary, but politicians have certainly been known for lying. |
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hey! that's a great idea! no, seriously, that's a way to go... but how should I get to seeing the generals? thanks for the idea bro... |
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Didnt you guys hear the speach? Oil isn't important to Bush since we will all be driving aournd in hydrogen fueled cars in 15 years. ; ) |
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he probably said flying around |
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that's the problem tho.. this whole "war".. or skirmish.. is predicated upon and encourages the perpetuation of America's dependency on oil.. we don't NEED it tho!.. there are much more efficent materials... one of the reasons marijuana gets such a bad rap is that the hypothetical hemp industry would, without question, put the following industries out of business: -oil (believe it or not) -cotton (who initially propagandized and lobbied against "marihuana" in 1916, making it illegal) -it might make a dent in the alcohol industry -tobacco ;).. non-toxic non-carcinogenic.. better among others... all of these industries lobby w/in our govt. and shut it down so their business can continue to thrive... that's also why we have those fucking antidrug commercials that are just rediculous |
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what scares me is australia thinks its hard enough to join in... this country is piss weak and think that by bumming the americans that we are untouchable. we're fucked thats what... im worried |
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yeah, crispy flakes flying around |
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I'm so glad I didn't watch Bush on TV. What a tool. |
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15 years? 15 years?? i'm sorry, that's too long a wait for me =( |
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I just wish all these people could just get on with one another. It's a big world and there's plenty of room for everyone. I hope no children or mothers or mothers holding children get hurt in the war. Or little puppies. |
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There won't be a draft- one of the joys of nuclear warfare is that that many people are no longer needed for a groundforce. If there was ever a draft I would refuse point blank, even if I would be shot as a coward/traitor as a result. |
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people who think that we don't need oil need to rethink the situation where the fuck do you think that gas for your car comes from? how would you like it if gas became 15 dollars a gallon?? what about airplanes..they don't fly on magic fairy dust.... it's not dick chany's oil....unless you've never driven in a car, train, plane or bus your entire life... you are just as guilty for causing this war!! oh course the war is about oil!! almost every war fought in the history of time has been about natural resources |
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I don't think I could stand it if I got drafted. I can't stand the sight of blood. I just hope Tony Blair and George Bush can come to some friendly agreement with Saddam. George and Tony are doing everything in their power to prevent a war from happening but saddam is just being nasty. |
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I thought a war involved 2 sides fighting? |
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I'm sure I've heard that one before, but great point of view anyway. |
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I agree that its about the oil and probably because Bush wants to accomplish what his father tried. IMO this whole weapon inspection thing was just a farce to get time to get their troups to irak and that is what pisses me off the most : those double moral values. North Coroa for example quit the anti nuclear treaty (dont know the english name) a month a ago and they announced they would research and build again. The USA does nothing. Bombing Irak will not kill Saddam Hussein or stop the middle east countries building weapons against the USA. Those Terror oragnisations get more members when the people are poor cause they have nothing to loose. I hope Bushdoesnt get President again :% |
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ok.. u used the word 'need.' we really don't NEED to use oil as excessively as we do. we don't NEED tacky christmas lawn displays, we dont need to keep the lights on when we're not in the room, we don't NEED to have gas-guzzling SUVs, we don't need to drive all the places we do. above all, we could use hydrogen to fuel our vehicles, we could even use hemp oil.. but we dont.. because the people that run things come from old money that comes from oil.. so, considering cheney is the president of the united states, (not vice-president, but president) and he and the people he's in cahoots with have the power to goto war to protect his investment..., so yes, people will end up dying for HIS oil. terrorism is funded by our oil-dependency, we get it from exxon etc. and exxon etc. gets it from the people that are out to kill us because of our freedom and our frivilous excess... |
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...that was for Cfern |
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You really need to relax a bit. Leave the war to the people who get paid to deal with it. Can I suggest you put a little lavender on your pillow before you go to sleep at night. It has worked wonders for me, I can tell you. |
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ahaha haha bill man you are are riot :D anyway war never needs to fighting sides. war just needs one stupid country bombing another. |
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Thing is, as with all resource conservation, home use is only about 10%- industry is the main culprit. People frantically conserving energy will do absolutely nothing- even if they 1/3 or 1/2 their petrol use (which I coldn't- I simply could not get to work and don't say take public transport- there isn't any) unless industry does the same. Still there are alternatives- those big american troop carrying planes that run on twin nuclear engines for example. Still American cars are stupidly oversized and inefficient for fuel- average main car is 5L engine, second "round town" car is 3L. Compare that to europe where it's closer to main car 1.6L, second car 1.2L and you can see where a hell of a lot of fuel goes. It makes you wonder why if cold fusion exists they haven't decided to release it now to avert this "war". |
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well, a republican's objective in a high political position is, basically, to keep the money on the side of people that already HAVE it- PLENTY of it (to understate). and that's what they're doing with this 'weapons of mass distraction' war. they're protecting a multi-billion dollar investment, and looking to turn more profits in the future. also, war is a great business for a gov't. it brings in billions and billions a year |
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look mr.BUSH does what what he is supposed to do - he rules the world!!!!! I THINK HE SHOULD FUCK THEM UP WITH A NUKE!!!!! LOOK iraq maybe a problem in the future so it would be best to slove that problem now>>>>>>>. |
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If Muslimgauze was alive... We'd have hundreds of releases these years. |
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*Runs out and buys a Mini* |
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I dont think you guys are looking at the big picture here....Bush is not going to war for some fucking oil...its this crazy fuck Sadam Hussein, he wants to rule the earth-be the next Hitler and fuck it Marines didnt sign up to train for nothing..they should have gotten rid of this crazy fuck who tortures his own people years ago and if they have to do it now then be it. |
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both bush and saddam are dictators so, i would actually enjoy seeing the both of them "out of office" and put away. |
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he's not a crazy fuck that wants to conquer the world. he's in his 70's.. time is running out and he realizes this. you're buying right into american propaganda. believe me, there is more to this than they're letting us know (obviously) |
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everyone should agree with me |
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im not buying into any american propoganda though i know what you're trying to say |
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i agree with theo and cygnus |
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hs past actions speak for themselves, saddam hussein is a serious threat not to be taken lightly.. no thats not me buying into America propaganda, its the truth.. whether or not that justfies war is not what im saying.. people on this board defend iraq like its some peaceful country or just because the US does bad shit as well that Iraq should be left alone.. thats not the case |
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Thats the point exactly...defence contracts...big bucks...the US is the biggest arms dealer...supports dicatorships...human rights violators...war criminals...genocidal manaics...crackpot Nazi mad scientists...sets up terrorist trainingcamps...its lobbyists sit on the board of directors of Lockheed Martin and the Red Cross at the same time...and of late are training dolphins and seals to complete miltary operations...huge profits to be made |
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Lets not forget who supplied Iraq with the arms in the first place... I am with Theo on this one... |
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i think youre being very naive (no offense). you blindly believe the information that is put out by the media, information that has been filtered by the US! of course this information will be filtered and arranged in a way to make saddam seem much more menacing than he is (though im not denying that he is). all im saying is dont believe everything that you read, it would be foolish! |
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i don't know enough truth to take a position |
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i do agree w/ cygnus tho |
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im not defending iraq at all or saying theyre a reasonable country at all! but im saying the opposite of what you are: a lot of americanse are defending their country and attacking iraq without a valid reason. honestly, who do you think have the most nuclear and biochemecal weapons. iraq or the USA???? do you think the USA would agree for un inspectors to inspect their arms? NEVER! |
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the point i wanted to make is that the USA are so much worse in that aspect. theyre accusing other countries of things they are themselves far more guilty of. |
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im not defending iraq at all or saying theyre a reasonable country at all that is an debatum-infinus, all there is to need to know is that they are run by a dictator. there is no real freedom or liberty for the people living there. all politics must be thrown aside, this has to be about the people. |
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These and might help...make a little more sense out the true motives this constant state of emergency and war mongering... the dogfight over defence contracts is so lucartive.... its really eerie after the BBC World News they roll out the financial stakes of the arms industry in this whole matter ..eeee |
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do you know how many america spends on warfare ?? 120 BILONS !! do you understand... look, if we would spend this money on good things, helping a country to grow up. give it the money it needs, there wouldn't be any war... fuck these assholes don't realise that. for the cost of some fucking tank you could serve an nigerian village with food for a few years !!! |
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