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offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-01-20 04:02 [#00520811]
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,878122,00.html


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-20 04:14 [#00520819]
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Who says the Welsh are dim, eh?

Thats a great idea. I don't understand why you have to pay
duty on it though, it should at least be reduced if it's not
being imported.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-01-20 04:20 [#00520825]
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This is an old concept accually.

This Welshman has ripped off somebody else. Can't remember
who cause I'm happily poluting the planet


 

offline fat kaimo from Finland on 2003-01-20 04:29 [#00520832]
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i read a few interesting things about cars that run on cow
manour or the methan it contains...


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-20 04:37 [#00520843]
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Duty has to be paid because its being used as fuel... not
cos its imported or not. Fuel duty is (supposed to be) used
for building roads, and coming up with things to improve the
environment. And the level of duty is supposed to stop
people burning as much...

Good idea though... and not really sure how they can enforce
the duty unless they catch you filling up with it.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2003-01-20 04:39 [#00520844]
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i remember this being in the news on tv over here.....lol

the thing about the duty is fucked up though


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-01-20 04:40 [#00520846]
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The point is?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-01-20 04:57 [#00520871]
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I thought we paid road tax for roads?

they should tax industry more heavily as they are the ones
contributing most to greenhouse gases AND they are more able
to afford to pay for the damage due to their vast profits.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-01-20 05:00 [#00520878]
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If you want it spelt out for you, the point is:

we are about to go to war to secure oil reserves for western
petroleum companies and the needs of US imperialist
expansion when there are alternatives that are more
environmentally friendly i.e. the logic of capital prohibits
more senible planning and use of resources.


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-20 05:01 [#00520879]
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Road tax... fuel tax... fuck it... it all goes on guns
anyway


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-01-20 05:13 [#00520892]
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Correct me if I'm wrong but this impending war has nothing
to do with oil and everything to do with Iraq's failure to
conform to UN requests. George Bush doesn't want a war, and
Tony Blair definitely does not want a war. Opinion polls
show the masses are predominately against any conflict and
Tony Blair bases all his governments policies on opinion
polls.

The media are trying their best to engender a fear and
hatred of foreigners but there is going to have to be a
terrorist attack in Britain before the people back Tony
Blair on this war. And I wouldn't put it past this
government to create one.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 05:18 [#00520896]
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you have got to be kidding

more troops go to the gulf everyday! war is avoidable! why
sent troops? it's not like we've seen proof like we did with
the whole cuba thing 40 or so years ago. there is hardly any
justification and still bush pushes on

if you ask me, bush wants this war and wants to win it too,
if only because he wouldn't know how to get reelected
otherwise


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-20 05:19 [#00520897]
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"The media are trying their best to engender a fear and
hatred of foreigners but there is going to have to be a
terrorist attack in Britain before the people back Tony
Blair on this war. And I wouldn't put it past this
government to create one."

You mean a 1984 stylee bombing of the population by the
govt. to keep them in a warlike state?

I'd be up for using cooking oil for fuel. I'd only do it in
a banger (old car)though...


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-01-20 05:22 [#00520900]
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You're wrong.

The UN requests were made at the behest of the Bush
administration because they knew that to reconfigure the
region in the shape they require, they would need backing.
The UN serves, as NATO has done, as a fig leaf for their
miltary operations.

The US is the largest imperialist power the world has known,
eclipsing even the British empire. To remain so it must
expand and this requires great oil reserves. The US has a
finite reserves of its own and so needs to secure them
elsewhere. Iraq being the largest oil reserve in the world
means they need a head of state who will pander to US oil
companies and the US' strategic interests.

Saddam Hussein has shown that he is no longer willing to tow
the line and hence the buld up for war.

Bush and Blair DO want war. Why else would they post so many
troops to the region? The UK is sending 20,000. What for if
not for war?



 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-01-20 05:28 [#00520902]
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If you want peace you must prepare to war.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 05:29 [#00520904]
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there can be no peace when everyone's guns are loaded


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-01-20 05:32 [#00520906]
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none are smoking yet though


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-20 08:27 [#00521085]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/02/voices
_from_iraq/html/adhami.stm

Interesting view from inside Iraq...


 


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