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sometimes. MOANA MANIAPOTO UPDATED: 04:54PM THURSDAY 22 AUGUST Singer Moana Maniapoto, Moana of the Moa Hunters, has lost the right to use her own name, at least in Germany. She's currently on a European tour, but a German company has asked for all her CDs to be pulled off the shelves. It says it owns the trademark to her name and has leased it to someone else. It's a sound and a name well known to New Zealand audiences and now Moana Maniapoto is also a hit in Germany, where she's just been touring. But the German company called Media XS, owns the copyright to the name Moana and has licenced it to a German trip-hop band, also called 'Moana'. Singer, Moana Maniapoto says: "It's been really, really frustrating, we're touring playing to thousands of people and we've got this threat that's been hanging over our head, the advice that the record company have been given is legally we don't have a leg to stand on." Yesterday the record companies reached a temporary truce. Our Moana's CD is allowed to stay on sale in German stores until October 31, but after that the album must be re-called, re-named and re-released under the title 'Moana and the Tribe'. Moana Maniapoto says: "It's just cultural appropriation as far as I'm concerned and I'm fascinated by the fact the ethics and morals surrounding this legal situation don't seem to be an issue." Maori Lawyer Moana Jackson describes this case as a particularly absurd example of something indigenous people have endured for years. Maori lawyer, Moana Jackson says: "I think it's fundamentally racist and re-affirms the assumption that many European countries have made for a number of years that anything indigenous is theirs to claim, redefine and own." Moana Maniapoto has been told she is not allowed to release any more CDs in Germany under her name. She told 3 News that she may use the name 'Heidi' next time she's there. |
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The artist formerly known as Moana. Fuck copyright, destroy industry. |
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right on dude..you bring the matches I bring the petrol...burn baby burn... oops.I forgot..you just need to breathe hard and heavy on em dont you;) |
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...and what about pharmacological copyrights that avoid the third world from manufacture their own medicines and forces them to buy to occidental rich companies at high prices... |
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Yeah, or even give them the EYE. I'm so evil I boil inside. Copyright is a big joke. Intellectual property is a big joke. Fuck all that shit and capitalist assholes who make profits on nothing more than spectres of ideas. |
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exactly. Copyright sucks ass. Music, software, drugs, whatever... |
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I am dreading when they will copyright your genetic code right from under your skin..(I have read news that wheels are in motion for such arangements..yikes)..so it will be tough shit if you need treatments involving your own genetic matter if some stupid crack whore relatives of your went and sold rights to your genes to get another fix...now that's what I call royally screwed by the copyright... |
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The whole notion of copyright is ridiculous to me anyway. I always thought you have the right to do whatever you can. So if I can burn discs, I will do it, copyright or no copyright. If they can't stop me, fuck them. But, as they very often can't they try to make us feel guilty for "violating intellectual property". Fuck you, says I. The material property would not be considered property if I didn't have the power to take it and protect it. So, the same extends to "intellectual" realm, as far as I'm concerned. |
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Yeah people, but that trip hop band gotta eat. |
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Let 'em work or steal. We had this discussion two months ago, didn't we. I don't feel like going all over it again... |
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the flipside of copyrights..is big green back munchers like Disney can shamelessly rape and pillage, older stories, fairy tales, folk tales etc out of basically anywhere in the world..make tanksers loads of money not even from the movie but also merchandising, generally cheapening and degrading the original myth folklore..not only that but their eurocentric appropriation retools and and mangles the story that in some cases have existed for hundreds even thousands of years for cheap family friendly kock about jokes and for the likes of elton john and phil collins to knock out bastardized god awful ballads even using some of the traditional instruments and samples.. its wholesale rape..I tells ya |
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Now, I do understand artists who hate to see their stuff plagiarised and dragged into gutter by lesser wannabes, but I say go and bust their kneecaps, don't hang on to legal solution. |
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Yeah man. Pochahontas wasn't even historically accurate. |
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most of them aren't. |
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Why do that when if you are Metallica go on media and threaten to financially destroy the families of each and every little 12 year old that Napstered one of their tunes..and come off as generally tragic and put upon bunch of gun totting red necks.. (okay this post does contains a few gross exagerrations but they can feel free to send their lawyers and sort it out) |
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and Aladdin wasnt literally accurate..and the list goes on.. |
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But I'm not even talking about it. That's just business, Metallica and Eminem are shutting down FTP exchange websites because they want to boost their sales. I'm saying this: Calvin and Hobbes, the comic strip, you know about it? Bill waterson, the author, never wanted to let the syndicate make merchandise based on his characters as he despised the idea. They never did (even though they own the copyright, not him, but they turned out to be not so bad in the end). But, inevitably, someone will say, fuck copyright and make Hobbes puppets and Calvin puppets etc. Now, as Bill Waterson said he'd hate to see his characters turned into sellable items, I guess, he'd sue those guys. Whereas I'd just go out and kick their asses. |
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Hey, James Hetfield is in rehab so...Karma Chameleon muthakukka! |
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I'm gonna copyright "copyright" so nobody will be able to copyright anything without my permission |
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kicking someone's ass instead of using legal stuff... since laws can come out with such stupid injustices like this —and it's not only one case; remember one?... besides law's so slow sometimes too, and rich people are harder to "beat" than poor people... yeah — sometimes i think our modern society's nothing but another version, more complicated and hypocritical, of "jungle law". (but i know it's just an impression; real jungle law must be much worse than this.) |
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No, you're right. Laws and legislation still, regardless of what everyone says, support the only existing value: power. |
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Power is what is at the base of rights and laws. It is just so. |
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"the weak ones are there to justify the strong"... |
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who do you quote? |
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© marilyn manson... ;) |
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That is dumb, there is always a way around these things my solution would be to use moana maniapoto II, or Moanna maniapoto etc. No one would really notice, she could still use the name just on her CD's and stuff just put the 2 at the end or spell it different. |
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there are two LFO's |
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Copyrights are all messed up. Micheal jackson owns the rights to quite a few beatles songs, he has sold the rights for guitar riffs of beatles songs to puff daddy probably others too. Its not right, puffy is paying micheal millions, then because he is using what the beatles wrote it sounds good and familiar so people buy it and he makes million, there both exploiting the beatles for profit. Mainstream music right now is a total shame there is no originality. yeah remixes are cool and all but come on people want to her new music everything now is trying to sound "familiar". The thing is mainstream is about money so its crap, people that do it because they love music and want to create something new and dont care about pleasing the masses are the ones making good music. |
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