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Anyone know what counterpoint means? |
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yes i do. |
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Main Entry: 1coun·ter·point Pronunciation: 'kaun-t&r-"point Function: noun Etymology: Middle French contrepoint, from Medieval Latin contrapunctus, from Latin contra- counter- + Medieval Latin punctus musical note, melody, from Latin, act of pricking, from pungere to prick -- more at PUNGENT Date: 15th century 1 a : one or more independent melodies added above or below a given melody b : the combination of two or more independent melodies into a single harmonic texture in which each retains its linear character : POLYPHONY 2 a : a complementing or contrasting item : OPPOSITE b : use of contrast or interplay of elements in a work of art (as a drama) |
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combine one melody with another. |
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counterpoint is the elaborate method of arranging the notes of chords both verticaly and horizontally. Its a very complex thing... like a puzzle... and there are all different types of things you can do with it. Its very structured, and hence gives the "classical" music sound. Back in the day, composers decided on what distance the notes should be apart from each other to sound good. So there is a certain range you stay in for the most part. Then you also have to consider the following chord, and how the notes of each voice (the 4 different lines of notes) will move, and the best way to get there. this probably made no sense... its hard to put into words... |
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No I understand completely Zeus. Thanks for that. So what I understand then is that its basically a way to find out what to do next after each chord or note. Like how to get to from point A to point B. Thats very fasinating. I need to take piano again...this is driving me nuts.. |
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I have a lot of ideas and don't know how to do them... :( |
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Im really inspired by John Cage and Steve Reich and all their experiments. Im thinking you need to be above professional professional to do their kind of stuff :/ |
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hmmm avant garde could be a whole different ballgame... i have studied it yet... but something tells me that they dont use counterpoint... and if they do... it has nothing to do with the counterpoint i was talking about :) and yeah, its basically what to do after a chord. But it doesnt write the song. For the most part you first write a melody and bass line. these follow certain rules as well... but these are actual thoughout musical ideas. then you add the rest and since all these rules need to be followed (speaking purely classical classical counterpoint) you sometimes have to change the melody and/or bass, to make all the voices work. |
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Counterpoint is the Baroque style, which was gradually replaced by the Homophonic style of the Classical period, before being embraced again. |
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Thats what Ive been doing so I must be on the right track! I start with melody and bass..hmm...thats cool. And yeah, Ive had to change things around cause sometimes either one conflicts angrily with the other. Since we're on the subject, Ive heard songs on the radio recently (and prior) that are based on like freeform or just having everyone do their own thing whilst listening very closely to what is being played. it sounds very organized but very spontaneous. how is this "conducted" and ultimatly thought out? are the players given ideas that are to be realized during the preformance or what? Hope you know what Im talking about :/ |
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me too, sucks dunnit |
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yeah, big time. |
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well, as in jazz, people follow a set chord structure. 4 bars of this chord, 2 of this etc etc so thats all known before they play. But then people play whatever they want over that. People use different chords sometimes, (special chords can be used to replace other chords) for a certain sound. (like, while the other people are still playing the original chord, the, say, piano plays a different one (again, not just ANY chord) so there is alot of structure in jazz... but also alot of freedom. but its alot of ear too. sometimes people repeat a section over and over until they wantt o move on, and the other plays have to pay attention to what theyre doing, if its leading into the new chord etc it takes alot of concentration... well for me at least |
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Thats very cool |
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