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offline johnnyboy from Estonia on 2002-08-10 09:56 [#00343868]
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Has anyone seen this film? God, what a shitty movie. I
can't believe i wasted two hours of my life because of it.
The acting was bad, story was so simple i wanted to puke. I
mean really, i've actually heard people praising this lame
excuse for a "film", oh well...


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-08-10 09:58 [#00343869]
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I thought that was an awesome movie! Especially the sound
when that guy gets curbed...


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-10 10:07 [#00343873]
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Great film.

Shit ending.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-10 10:20 [#00343880]
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"Shit ending" -- Ya not wrong there...


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-10 10:29 [#00343886]
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Ninjas are NEVER wrong :D


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-08-10 10:32 [#00343887]
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The ending was definetaly shit.


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-08-10 10:38 [#00343891]
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I think it 's a great film,with a good message.
even the ending has his function in this film.


 

offline johnnyboy from Estonia on 2002-08-10 10:38 [#00343892]
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Not only was the ending shit, the entire film was. Edward
Norton should find himself unother day-job.


 

offline mccabe from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-08-10 11:13 [#00343925]
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its an alright movie,sure its a little melodramatic in
places,but i thought edward norton gave an excellent
performance.
i remember going to see a preview showing of it a few months
before it came out[couldnt be bothered staying for the talk
about the movie afterwards]which was very funny because
there were some mistakes in the movie which had the entire
audiance laughing,several scenes where the boom wandered
between the actors[this was obviously sorted afterwards].:)


 

offline steve from chicago on 2002-08-10 20:05 [#00344160]
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johnnyboy, good luck getting that reaction you're looking
for.

I dug the film.


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-10 20:07 [#00344163]
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I really liked it as well and I thought the ending was very
fitting

It was a really powerful movie


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-08-10 20:16 [#00344167]
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hum, if you were thinking it was an action movie or
something, then ya, you might not enjoy it, but damn, it is
a very powerful and intriguing movie.

Edward Norton had some balls to play that role, and he did
it well. The hate was so real, the pain so present.

I've honestly never heard a single person say they didn't
feel real uncomfortable and moved after the movie, it
crosses a lot of emotions.

Too bad it didn't appeal to you, it is a wonderfully
powerful and insightful film.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-08-10 20:32 [#00344175]
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That is a fantastic movie, one of my favorite ever. And
Norton is a great actor, he was flawless in that film. I
love the mix of color and black and white scenes.


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2002-08-10 21:03 [#00344218]
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i actually liked the film, and usually, im pretty
over-critical about every film.

i was shocked to see it was the same edward norton in fight
club. he's got all those muscles in american history x, so
i didnt recognize him right away...


 

offline johnnyboy from Estonia on 2002-08-10 21:05 [#00344221]
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Oh my god, i thought Aphex Twin fans were smarter than that.
No, i wasn't looking for an action movie, just something
that would be better than your average after-school special.
And that's insactly what it was, an after-school special,
that only stupid teenagers enjoy.


 

offline Rioteck from 'tStadt (Belgium) on 2002-08-10 21:08 [#00344225]
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The movie was very good! just a little too sweet for those
neo nazi bitches, but I liked it a lot.


 

offline steve from chicago on 2002-08-10 21:11 [#00344230]
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johnnyboy, you're trying too hard. :)


 

offline johnnyboy from Estonia on 2002-08-10 21:18 [#00344238]
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What the hell am i "trying too hard" then?
That's only my honest opinion.


 

offline steve from chicago on 2002-08-10 21:21 [#00344247]
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Funny little man.


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-08-10 21:24 [#00344256]
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I enjoyed the film also
Very sensitive material handled effectively
brutal in places but not sugary violence a la Hollywood;
genuinely disturbing stuff.

It seems you are in a minority here johnnyboy, which is
fine. Vive la difference .. or something .


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2002-08-10 21:31 [#00344265]
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care to tell me your 5 favorite movies? if donnie darko is
in there, i'll fuckin punch you in the face!!!


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-10 21:46 [#00344284]
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I liked that movie as well but that says nothing about good
taste :)


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-10 21:49 [#00344288]
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i haven't seen it yet, but it seems like it's powerful


 

offline GolgiApp from Seattle (United States) on 2002-08-10 23:14 [#00344401]
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It is melodramatic and overly tidy. It's been awhile since
I've seen it, but what I remember disliking is the
simplistic explanations and resolutions to the problems that
arise in the film. How did this man become so angry? It
appears as though a few dinner conversations with his racist
father was all it took. How did he change his ways? A few
conversations with a black 'co-worker' in prison and a good
buggering. How did he change his brothers ways? Again, it
appears, only a fleeting conversation about how he was
wrong. Racism, hate and the motivations behind them are far
to grand in scope to be handled in ninety-minutes of film.
I don't like Hollywood trying to depict social issues. It
NEVER works. This includes any film attempting to deal
with: Gays, AIDS, HMO's, The Justice System, Racism,
Adoption, Alcoholism, Welfare, Poverty...etc. It's to
difficult to depict a fictionalized story about real-life
problems when these subjects are better suited and more
effective in a documentary. I will say that Edward Norton
was f'n ripped in the movie.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-08-10 23:15 [#00344403]
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A great movie, though it DOES have some melodrama and gooey
sappy stuff in there... still... the issues it tackles are
powerful. And Edward Norton is built like a muthafucka! He
looks like he could kick some ass in that one. Baldness
exagerates one's toughness.


 

offline johnnyboy from Estonia on 2002-08-11 09:44 [#00344734]
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My top 5 movies? Ok

Dr Strangelove
Baths Of Glory
To Kill A MockingBird
Vertigo
Seven Samurai

So as you can see, no Donnie Darko there.


 

offline plugexpert from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-11 10:38 [#00344750]
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offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-11 11:12 [#00344758]
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To Kill A Mockingbird is a wonderful movie, as was the book
by Harper Lee. Good to see a Kubrick film in your top 5 too
:)


 

offline johnnyboy from Estonia on 2002-08-11 11:55 [#00344779]
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Actually there's two Kubrick films:-)


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-11 12:00 [#00344781]
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OH, Paths of Glory

You fooled me with your talk of BATHS of glory :P

Have you seen The Killing, which Tarantino blatanty ripped
off? Brilliant film.


 

offline johnnyboy from Estonia on 2002-08-11 12:29 [#00344787]
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Yep, i think i've seen all Kubrick films, and more than once
:)
The Killing is probably ninth in my top 10 Kubric films, a
fine movie indeed.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-11 13:24 [#00344804]
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i remeber i was impressed with it first time i watched it,
but i saw it again last year and i did not see why i was so
impressed. as GolgiApp says, the story is simple and hard to
believe.

i did like mr norton's metamorphosis though. he was also
great in fight club


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-08-11 14:59 [#00344830]
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it's cool, some of you critics were actually dead on about
the things that true movie reviewers disliked in the movie.

Roger Ebert- "... his father's dinner table conversation;
his father tutors him in racism, but the scene feels like
tacked-on motivation, and the movie never convincingly
charts Derek's path to race hatred. "

Ebert gave it 3/4 stars, and even though I believe it was a
really good film, I will applaude those who pointed out it's
weaknesses in a respectable and intelligent manner.

It's a relief from the typical, That Suxors. that is all
people will give of their oppions. Cool.


 

offline DJ Buzz from Odessa (Ukraine) on 2002-08-11 16:48 [#00344875]
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As for me, the film is fairly good as the piece of art (it
is really rather simple - not a serious-level film like
Kubrick's or Kurosawa's). But as the "messenger" this film
is GREAT. I think it really makes all dumb assholes (who are
the majority of ppl in the world) to THINK about racism and
realize what a shit it is. And yes, it IS rather moving - I
don't usually care about what's going on the screen, but
that moment with "put your teeth..." is phat...


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2002-08-12 04:19 [#00345210]
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ok, you passed the test, even though you put dr strangelove
instead of the almighty a clockwork orange... i give you
the permission to go on with your american history x
bashing.

;)


 

offline SwitchFrontside on 2002-08-12 04:25 [#00345215]
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yeh.... i liked the movie a lot.... the ending was realoy
weird to say the least but if you listen to what he is
saying in the background it makes perfect sence.


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-12 04:36 [#00345222]
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The end just made it seem like a film


 

offline johnnyboy from Estonia on 2002-08-12 09:43 [#00345409]
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By the way, i don't even like A Clockwork Orange that much.
Sure it's light years ahead of american history x, but still
it pales in comperasion when you compare it to other Kubrick
work.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-08-12 10:13 [#00345423]
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i saw the cider house rules by lasse hallstrom last
night-now that is a beautiful film


 

offline Joyrex Infinity from Andover (United States) on 2002-08-12 14:57 [#00345665]
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i definetly liked this movie. the first time i saw this
movie was my sophmore year in high school and i knew i would
be watching it again.

the ending was predictable...


 

offline Rioteck from 'tStadt (Belgium) on 2002-08-12 16:10 [#00345750]
Points: 225 Status: Lurker



Anyone has seen the movie: American history XXX? The shower
scene for about two houres. Hehez Regardz


 


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