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offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-05 17:05 [#00298225]
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I don't know him.

What do you think of him?
Is he good?
Worth checking? (and wich songs/albums??)
Any fans around here?

=o)


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-05 17:15 [#00298235]
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and...
is it plastiCman or PlastiKman?


 

offline artemis from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-07-05 17:16 [#00298238]
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Plastikman sucks!


 

offline Resident Evil from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-05 17:20 [#00298239]
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I have a few track's by him, ok but I don't go back to them
much.

I'm not sure of the title (I'm sure someone here will know)
but I do like the track that has the mental hospital video.
Not bad video either.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-07-05 17:37 [#00298255]
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overall not that great.

i had 4 of his cd and sold them back

get "sheet musik"
it had tabs of acid on the front cover ...heheheh


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-05 17:44 [#00298263]
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okay,I'm convinced.
I will never EVEN TRY to buy or download any plastikman.



 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-05 17:54 [#00298276]
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Plastikman is fucking incredible.

Anyone who says otherwise just doesn't get minimal techno.
I'm not saying that it's for everyone, but you can't
discount it totally.

For beginners I would suggest:

Musik - One of the best albums to drive to. The most easily
accessible of all his work. Yet totally amazing.

Consumed - A dark exploration of depression through minimal
techno. Shows his range and how he can create a mood as
well as any of his peers.

Richie Hawtin Concept 1 CD - This is a compilation of all
the Concept 12"s. More for the head than for the heart, I
consider this to be the finest mimimal techno produced to
date.

In closing I will warn you, you may not like/get minimal
techno but if you do Plastikman's a must.



 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-05 17:59 [#00298291]
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*starts doubting*

okay, I want more opinions .


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-05 18:22 [#00298317]
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Dude! Get Plastikman! he's awesome. aside from john
digweed he's the best dj there is! he's great at what he
does. so at least pick up those cds Mickeal Jac...err..i
mean The third ball pointed out!


 

offline Neto from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2002-07-05 19:00 [#00298359]
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I have "Musik" and it's a really GOOD cd, i love sound of
his machines, think I'll obtain more music of him soon, I'm
interested in his Richie Hawtin last release

Try the track "Plastique"


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-05 19:02 [#00298360]
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OMG!!!
That is an ugly girl!!
I bet she's a pornstar.

okay,I'll give hime a try.
I'll d/l a few tracks.


 

offline Neto from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2002-07-05 19:07 [#00298369]
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hey!!! take care with the things you say, she is NOT any
ugly, and she is my personal goddess.

don't forget it, try "Plastique"


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-05 19:09 [#00298371]
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dunno....she looks like a slut.

But that's MY opinion.


 

offline Neto from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2002-07-05 19:39 [#00298426]
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I don't care what people say about my girl... some seems
like jealous people


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-05 19:46 [#00298441]
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Who is that girl? Do you know her? Is she a model? What's
the story?


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-05 20:01 [#00298465]
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It's obvious she's a pornstar.

Jade had more style.
...yeah,she had class.
xlr!! where are you???
BRING JADE BACK!!!!!


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-05 20:29 [#00298506]
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I guess we'll never know...


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2002-08-22 13:31 [#00360104]
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this is crazy. i'm leaving

plastikman is good :)


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-08-23 02:14 [#00360793]
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i like plastikman. but then it all depends does it not?

"musik" is prolly the best one to start on?

or if you're d/l individual tracks, i consider "spastik",
"gak", and "outbak" to be three sort of singles [dunno if
they actually were or not? mm]

"Consume" is the pu also. although very minimal, ..

haven't got any of the concept stuff, maybe should look into
that ..

and Richie Hawtin's - "DE9: Closer to the edit" is a must!!!


 

offline neurone from orleans (France) on 2002-08-23 02:32 [#00360801]
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ha that's fun because I was listening to plastikman's
'artifakt' while getting on the mb, and I see this
topic......

...
I like plastikman, especially track 'packard'


 

offline Clipper from in a cave with my two friends (United States) on 2002-08-23 02:34 [#00360802]
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you can either go with plastikman (his songwriting work,
more minimalistic and more abstract, but still rooted in
house) or you can buy ritchie hawtin (his dj work, basically
good house, really good house)...i have a friend (who is
very into both) that says every time i put on autechre, "hey
is this those guys that rip off plastikman?" this is of
course not true...what he does not understand is that
ritchie's music is rooted in house and breaks and autechre's
is rooted in hip hop and ambient...but somehow it can be
seen that plastikman and autechre sound alike...if you buy
plastikman, go with concept, artifakts, sheet one, musik, or
consumed...if you go with ritchie, get decks, effects, and
909; or DE9: closer to the edit...
thanks for your help...i mean attention


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-23 03:00 [#00360814]
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I like Plastikman a lot..a lot of it is very minimal..and
trance inducing but (not in the cheesy trance music way no
it's nothing like it)..it's brilliant use of negative
space..you start haering things in between the beats and the
echos that actually arent there..or maybe they
are...recreational ingestation always enhances the
expereience ;)..

the closest reference I can come to is a stipped down
Polygon Window...


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-23 03:02 [#00360815]
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and I think his point of refernce is the stripped down
Detroit Techno and not House (which is from Chicago and
inherently busier more hyper kinetic with a lot more
percussion lines)


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-23 03:31 [#00360844]
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i have artifakts bc. there are some nice trax on it.


 

offline Ubik from United States on 2002-08-23 04:01 [#00360879]
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Plastikman was great like 93 and 94, very innovative take on
Chicago acid and Detroit techno ... Muzik is a great
album.... Recycled Plastik is a great Ep with the classik
"Spastik"....

in recent years his innovation has decined but he still is a
class act.... how can anybody dis him???


 

offline naaic from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2002-08-23 04:14 [#00360887]
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don't forget to check out FUSE - Dimension Intrusion, it's
richie's(plastikman) more idm-like material....similar to
black dog, b12, etc.


 

offline Asche XL on 2002-08-23 05:12 [#00360948]
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if we're talking about techno and house then we should be
talking about SASHA's new cd airdrawndagger. ITS SO AMAZING.
too all the people who are about to insult it and its genre
foook u


 

offline Asche XL on 2002-09-07 16:22 [#00383122]
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I just got some plastikman cd's. They're fuckin' awesome. I
don't know what you peeps are talkin about.


 

offline urb from Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-09-07 19:14 [#00383221]
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I dig airdrawn dagger too.. or parts of it anyway. track 2
is good. suprised me that the wanker 'junkie xl' was a
co-producer on that one.

and supreme, get musik, it's good.


 

offline diablo on 2002-09-07 20:27 [#00383268]
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Spastik - Incredible tune.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-09-07 20:28 [#00383270]
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i like fuse
thats about it


 

offline Spreading Phlox from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-09-07 22:40 [#00383407]
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Richie Hawtin has made loads of amazing music but i would
say the F.U.S.E album (WARPCD12) is his best.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-09-07 23:28 [#00383428]
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'Psyk' from Artifacts BC is my favourite track. Consumed is
great too.

I had the FUSE cd for a couple of years, but wasn't paying
attention. Then later I put it on and it was great. But
'Psyk' is wonderful.

-P


 

offline xanax from wageningen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-09-07 23:53 [#00383464]
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yeah artifakts is great shit


 

offline aron from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-09-07 23:59 [#00383472]
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plastikman is good.
yes


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-09-08 01:52 [#00383608]
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Plastikman - Musik, Consumed
Richie Hawtin - Decks, EFX and 909
plus F.U.S.E. - Dimension Intrusion

Plastiriffic :.D


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-09-08 02:52 [#00383650]
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I dont know..DE9 ..is a pretty damn innovative approach to a
DJ Set/ Remix album


 

offline bitch hog on 2002-09-08 03:13 [#00383675]
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his music was/is, amazing.

now hes simply a dancefloor filler and exudes fuck all of
comment.


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-09-08 03:44 [#00383706]
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oh
ehehehehe!
an old topic of mine! lol!

I bought artifakts, and I like it a lot!
thx for recommending!


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2002-09-08 04:48 [#00383775]
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For some reason I dont really like his music under the
Plastikman moniker...But Richie the DJ is great !


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2002-10-03 00:36 [#00390876]
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I agree totally with Ubik. He has gone downhill lately, but
his earlier suff is terrific.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-10-03 01:26 [#00390935]
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i saw hawtin on sunday.

it's liek I know he is gopod and stuff but i got bored
quickly and headed off to the breaks room to shaky my funky
third leg etc etc...

i don't get minimalist techno :(
oh well if i keep trying and keep listening, one day i'll
get into it.

i had a listen to a couple of plastikman CDs in rekkid
stores and wasn't THAT impressed but it sounded kinda
groovy.


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2002-10-03 03:00 [#00391004]
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Plastikman is fucking incredible. yes consumed is an
awsome albumn... i was actually in to plastic man years and
years ago.. a couple years before i got into aphex and
autechre...weird huh


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-10-03 03:16 [#00391013]
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it has been said enough but HE IS INCREDIBLE !
i bought decks fx & 909 last week and it's the best
house/techno mixed shit i heard in a long time, i'm terribly
dissapointed cos i missed the consumed 2x12" in second hand
for like 12 euros !
:-(


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-28 08:49 [#00674127]
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Consumed is unfucking believable!!! He hasn't gone down the
tubes. Stop whatever you're doing, smoke some weed, go and
lie down with some headphones and listen to Consumed. I
have never heard anything like it. It is the first album
where the spaces between music become as important as the
music itself.

You have to understand minimal techno to understand
Plastikman. I have a friend with a degree in musical theory
and sound engineering; apparently, Richie Hawtin
(plastikman) makes music that is STACKED with musical theory
(unbeknownst to me). She studied him and his music during
her time in school and can't stop talking about him - I'm
not disagreeing any time soon. THe man has made a number of
albums using old synths like the TB-303 and 707, without
sounding stale. He doesn't need fluffy sound-effects, or
layer upon layer of goo. He strips his music down to the
essentials and manages to make it hopelessly addictive in
the process. If you don't like Plastikman, at least give
him your respect for being a brilliant musician.

Go download Propllerhead's Rebirth program and make music as
good as Plastikman. You would essentially be using the same
gear. (minus some effects plug-ins)


 

offline alnuit on 2003-04-28 08:54 [#00674133]
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Consumed is IT. Fucking incredible stuff. If you like Basic
Channel and Oval and other minimal stuff, then you should
find it easy to like him. He is absolutely incredible, his
rhythms driving and his bass lines intense. Really, the
epitome of minimal music.


 


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