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Copyright protection on his newer cd drukqs! I just read that today, and it really bums me out a lot, makes me think differently of him. that really blows a lot of ass, hes helping the RIAA and other such agencies or want-to-be laws... damn! his music is great, but he can suck my ass on this one. |
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does the artist have any control over that? i couldn't really care less, seeing as i had all of drukqs before it came out. i think. BUT, if he did choose that, he can suck my ass on this one too. |
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that was only a little contradicting of me....wh00ps. |
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its not in the artists hands... he probably doesnt even know about it |
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It was only on the German release (on ZOMBA).....and yeah, it wasn't his choice... The UK, US etc are fine..... |
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this whole thing is agaisnt the law we have the right to make copies for home use... this is clearly an infringment of our rights |
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Let's boycott! On second thought...nah. |
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wait, i have a copy of drukqs, so are you saying this is impossible to copy? |
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I have an actual copy of Drukqs (YES Xanatos, I bought a CD! :-), but it's not copy protected or anything. |
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me too. |
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the ethics of downloading material always bring up much discussion. most cd burners aren't even used for making copies, just mixes! and I personally refuse to download entire albums becuz I know that if I don't buy the cds the artist isn't going to release anymore no matter how great they are record companies inevitably only release things that create capital. but thankfully the industry is starting to realize that it sucks big dick. groups like the strokes, the white stripes, and dashboard confessional are totally fucking with how the big record companies are going to choose what they release. did you know that on the major labels only 5% of ALL the releases make a profit!!! denying us the ability to make mixes and mp3s for players and computers isn't going to make things better. |
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It's their music, their dicision |
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Yeah they said your allowed to copy your cd's "as back ups" for your own personal use. This is against the law to make cd's "uncopyable" ( <--if thats a word). |
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As I saidm, only GERMAN releases has thsi copy-prot on....ZOMBA is tha label,,, They did this as CD sales have gooe rapiddly downhill as everyone in Germany has Broadband.....a taste of the future (my BB us coming next month.,,,!!!!::::)..... All other countries are fine....and I believe there is a waty around the prot...do a google on "ZOMBA drukqs protection".,,,, HTH.... |
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The White Stripes are cool... don't diss them, yo. |
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You'd have him suck your ass? What the fuck man, I can't even bring myself to copy such incredible music that Richard D. James puts his heart and soul into. Not to mention that he has no control over how his albums are minted, and all that. Just buy his stuff, downloading and burning it only hurts him, as the RIAA already makes enough from all their other copyright-protected bullshit. |
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yeah...it couldnt have been richard's decision...as he even said in an interview...that he wanted people to rip the songs they liked from the album and make their own mixes...as thats what he usually does |
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One time, I accidently caufht myself thinking, and I thotugh ")The only REAL reason an individual's political stand in this argument would be strongly FOR buying cd's rather tahn burning free copies... would be that this individual wishes to one day sell his/her OWN cd's in the future and make a profit. All other logic points to downloading for free as the better choice (more exposure, more material, easily obtainable)...(" I mean, oh let's support artists and buy their stuff because it's the ETHICAL thing to do... yeah right. ethical, ...pah. But as quoted above "if I don't buy the cds the artist isn't going to release anymore no matter how great they are record companies inevitably only release things that create capital. " is an interesting idea I didln't not not thinkim ov. |
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the vinyl copy of drukqs comes with a long copy-protection clamp-arm protruding from the central label, and as the record spins the arm waves about, tickling you if you try to get close enough to press 'record' on your tape-deck. |
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It isn't up to the artist, it is up to the record label |
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if you really want to copy it, just record it analog from your cd player into your pc. my drukqs cds don't have copy protection on em, i've burned a 'drukqs_edits' cd for my discman and nothing went wrong.. |
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zomba i guess licence warp stuff for germany - aphex twin wouldn't have had anything to do with the decisision - but sales of cd's in germany are well known to be monumentally fucked so i guess they are protecting their interests |
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it actually has a very weak protection, i just had tu update my iosubsys.dll via gamecopyworld. there's this other protection out now which you can work around through painting a black line on the edge of the disk. those discs can't be played on many players (including sony's although sony also sells the discs) what does actually suck. |
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Wheres the proof that its only on the one certain cd(s0 or whatever.... blah.. im sick of it, thats retarded. |
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I think pirating music and software is not illegal in Germany (if I'm not mistaken) so I assume to combat this they release everything on these copy protected discs... Makes sense to me... |
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yes i heard a radio programme on the black-felt-pen trick -- they were asking whether or not the dumboes would outlaw black felt pens now ;) |
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I don't really understand... do you mean copy protection? Cause yes, copy protection would suck... but copyright? How is that bad? I'm really not sure what you mean here... I mean everything is copyrighted, even if you don't get papers saying so you still have a copyright... |
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funk: It's copy protection we're talking about here...basically the CD is created in such a way that CDROM drives in PCS/MACS can't read em properly, so it's tricky to rip em & turn into MP3s...They play fine on normal Audio CD players tho... It's pretty unpopular as it means you can't use your CD drive to play CDs which a lot of people do... The German version of Drukqs was released with this copy protection because the CD market in Germany has crashed as so many people have high-speed internet connections there, and so dl without buying... As far as I know, AFX didn't know about the copy proctection...it was something ZOMBA (the label that distibutes WARP in Germany) added... Pretty pointless really as people in Germany could still get MP3s from any of the P2P progs like Soulseek... REFLEX: Heres the proof, you disbeliving thing you..Check this page for a list of all copy protected CDs... ... "Reported Corrupt CDs in Europe .... ¤ Aphex Twin: Drukqs (Germany/Unknown) .... " |
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Apparently these protection things can be overcome with a bit of felt pen around the edge of the CD. I read this in MacUsers but have not yet checked it myself. JAND have you any info on the subject? |
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yeah, I heard about that...haven't tried it out as I've no Copy Protected CDs but apparently it does work from what I've been told... Why these companies believe that Copy Protection is gonna work I have no idea: anyone who knows what they are doing can get around it and it's only genuine customers who HAVE paid for their CD that get adversly affected...and it only takes one person in the whole world to do a successful rip and that's it... |
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Yeah, and it's not even illegal to upload software for cracking the protection. They just fuck up those cheap-ass customers who would not know how to rip a CD in the first place and were hoping they can use their PC as CD player. |
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It will soon be illegal to reverse-engineer any Copy Protection scheme...I believe it is already in the US (the DCMA) but the EU are going for similar laws... And you just know that whatever physical digital format comes after CDs (DVD-Audio?..and beyond) is gonna have hardcore copy protection...not the sort of stuff that crackable with a Felt Tip pen unfortunately... but at the end of the day, if you can hear it, you can copy it: it's as simple as that...maybe not at 100% digital quality but close enough so no-one would really notice... |
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Sadly, it's not against the law. The creation of backups/compilation CD-Rs of CDs you own is against the law :( Still, as long as there's line out and line in on Hi-Fis/PCs there's a way around it, eh? |
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The reverse engineering clause in software at least is only legally binding in 1 state at the moment. The way they usually do you is by saying that in using portions of copyrighted code (of the protection) in the cracker you're breaking copyright. Still, good, legally savvy, programmers can make code that does the same w/o resembling the original... The things after DVD (that'll use blue lasers), whatever they're going to be called will be a swine- even after they've been out a while they'll be very expensive, moreso for "burners". Still, I find 128kbps MP3 tolerable, so I've not got any worries :) |
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I thought making a copy for your personal use or as a backup was fine. Doesn't that count as "fair use"?.. |
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Nope, backups are illegal unless they specifically say on the packaging "you may make a backup for personal use". That myth started because some software house used to include that on 5 1/4" disk games due to the volatil nature of the medium. It was perpetuated by piracy devices claiming that they were for backups of legally owned software- this in itself being illegal :) Still, as with all copyright, the police/FAST/etc won't follow it up unless they get a tip off or the copyright owner wants to take you to court. |
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wow...that's pretty hardcore... Is this just for software or does it include stuff like music as well?... |
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I love free music don't get me wrong...but when i try to make it my livelyhood and people make a copy for home use...and then log on to a napster or kazza service and 1 copy can be shared with anyone (ie millions of people) i'd be a lil pissed too. I'm sure rich doesn't care much...as long as his rephlex stuff isn't harmed :) |
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Same rules apply to music as well sadly... One of my lecturers told me and he used to be an expert witness relating to copyright as well as advising the government on copyright! |
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