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offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-06-21 03:48 [#00277615]
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i have the cd along with still, which are both very good.
anyone have the dvd, how is it?


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-21 04:42 [#00277645]
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Personally, I think the dvd was a let down.. I never had a
chance to see them on the Fragility tour and was expecting
something more akin to the live performances on Closure.
To me it seemed more rock'n'roll than fine art.. Everything
felt too glossy. I really like 'still' though, especially
'all that could have been' and 'leaving hope'. I hope it's
indicative of the direction he's taking his music in now -
the emotions seem a little more mature.. It's kind of
awkward watching a 40 year old prowl back and forth on the
stage like a panther while singing 'head like a hole'. I
don't know, it just came off as really insincere to me. I'm
sure most people will disagree..


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-21 04:58 [#00277660]
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I'd like to see him cast off the restraints of nine inch
nails and approach things solely as Trent Reznor. I think
he's a brilliant musician with a profound ability to
manipulate atmosphere.. Some of the dynamics and subtle
shifts in his music are literally breathtaking. I honestly
can't think of any other artist that compares with him in
way of musical genius(and I use the term very sparingly)...



 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-21 05:04 [#00277673]
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Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, even John Lennon... All
brilliant renaissance men in their own right but none of
them hold a candle to Trent Reznor in terms of musical
genius.
..Just my own opinion of course.


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2002-06-21 05:09 [#00277679]
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there's a couple of projects from trent. tapeworm has been
in the works for a while. it's supposed to be trent,
charlie clouser, page hamilton, maynard james keenan, phil
anselmo and a few more nin members.

also, look up Lucky Pierre for old stuff.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-21 05:12 [#00277683]
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I'm not too excited about Tapeworm... I like his music most
when it's HIS music -not when it's created through a
democratic process.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-21 05:55 [#00277770]
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he's not 40, he's 37, but point taken. the first new nin
music you'll probably hear is the music (and sound fx) to
the new computer game doom 3. that should be first or second
quarter 2003. who knows if any nin or tapeworm will come out
before then.


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2002-06-21 05:57 [#00277774]
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i'm jelous, my two friends went to see nin at the gorge one
day and it turned out that that was the concert that they
recored piggy at for the all that could've been album. me so
jealus. =(


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-21 05:59 [#00277781]
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Yes, I can't wait to hear the score for Doom III. Did you
happen to hear the interview with him and and John Carmack?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:03 [#00277791]
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not yet i've been meaning to listen to it. btw i made some
high quality mp3's drom the doom 3 8 minute trailer, they're
in cd quality stereo. 55 seconds of sound + music and then
another 10 seconds of bizarre sounds. want them?


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:06 [#00277795]
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You should listen to the interview, Trent Reznor's secretly
a nerd! Re : sounds - I'd love that! How do you propose we
set it up?


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:07 [#00277797]
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heh.
he's one big video game nerd.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:13 [#00277803]
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huge nerd..
http://phux.conniption.org/doom3 enjoy (anyone can
download the clips, i'll leave them there till tomorrow)


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:16 [#00277808]
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Thanks titsworth.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:18 [#00277814]
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my pleasure


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:33 [#00277830]
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i liked the DVD.....however....it does not really give the
feel of the LIVE performance in my opinion. i went to 9
shows during the fragility tour (the SAN FRANCISCO show was
the BEST) and it just didn't give me the same vibe...or even
close to it. so in a way it was a disappointment......but
thats a TALL order to fill.

titsworth's track is VERY cool....i recommend a download and
a listen in a DARK roooom.

*cue scary music* =0)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:37 [#00277833]
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?

those are just clips i made of trent's sound and music from
the doom3 video, not anything i made


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-21 06:38 [#00277834]
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NINE SHOWS DURING ONE TOUR?!?!?!?!?!? Damn woman, what are
you, loaded with money?!?!?!? :)


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:49 [#00277841]
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Those clips are incredible! I think he's best at things
like this when he's free to work without any sort of image
constraints..


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-21 06:53 [#00277846]
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i totally agree. the quake soundtrack is trent's SAW2, it's
very listenable on its own. the doom3 music is going to be
so amazing in 5.1 surround. the last interview i read said
his score literally rocked the theater where doom 3 was
previewed.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-06-21 07:05 [#00277860]
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Re : Trent's SAW2
That's exactly how I've always thought of it. I used to
listen to the Quake soundtrack all the time.... Harrowing!
Especially that first track. I love it when his songs start
out violent and intense and then suddenly drop off i.e.
Perfect Drug, Driver Down, and several others I can't think
of right now.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-21 07:16 [#00277874]
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as much as i love nin i'd love more if he just dropped some
of the things he feels like he's obligated to do with it
(ie: depressed lyrics, simple vocabulary, sulking, hard rock
riffs) and release a completely honest album. i think his
most sincere releases since becoming famous have been still
and the quake soundtrack. i think he feels very frustrated
by the formula he's built himself and i hope he decides to
BREAK that formula instead of sacrificing his musical
brilliance to appeal to his fanbase. he sounds really into
his new album, which doesn't sound like 'still' at all but
instead "violent, minimalist synth-bass techno" which might
be very good. it all depends on how it's executed.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-06-21 07:51 [#00277907]
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ohh hehehehe

no no.....not LOADED.......just 'packing heavily'.....tee
hee

*free airline tickets help a lot* ;)


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-06-21 17:01 [#00278565]
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actually I believe trent said his next release will be much
more stripped down and brutal and be more similar to his
older work.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-06-21 17:04 [#00278568]
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Yeah, his studio has loads of old arcade games :)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-21 17:09 [#00278574]
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hehe, free plane tickets? Damn... what is your job if you
don't mind my asking? I seem to remember reading you were a
flight attendant for some reason, is this correct or am I
way off? :)


 


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