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Is Autechre boring.
 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-06-19 00:53 [#00273976]
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Please state: Yes or No

and explain why.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-19 00:58 [#00273989]
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no.

all tracks have infinite visual possibility, because they
are mostly atmospheric.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-19 00:58 [#00273990]
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No

how can be boring the best music ever made to date.

with each release, they are steping further into the limits
of music

they are always bringing new meanings to music, harmony and
melody...

how can they be boring
they are the best


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-19 01:02 [#00273994]
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No, I don't think so.

But they can be... some tracks need to be pared down a bit,
Recury being one of them... track doesn't change much. I
LOVE the first 5 minutes, then I get pretty bored,
admittedly...

Clipper changes and has lots of stuff going on, so it's
allowed to be long.


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2002-06-19 01:06 [#00273996]
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not at all


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-19 01:07 [#00273999]
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no again.

reason 2 being that mind visualization is essential to any
autechre track, or else i think you'll wonder why the hell
you're even listening to it.


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-06-19 01:11 [#00274005]
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no

Autechre = the opposite of boring


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2002-06-19 01:44 [#00274044]
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no. it's very challenging music.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-06-19 01:52 [#00274049]
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But are there songs that are just too repetitive to the
point that requires a 'skip trap'?


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2002-06-19 01:54 [#00274051]
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not in my opinion. from what ive experienced with ae, a lot
of songs sound repetitive on first listen. after giving
them a more listens, you start to hear subtle changes
everywhere. they are gods.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-19 01:55 [#00274052]
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whether or not you like the song is your own thing


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-19 02:00 [#00274057]
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yes!!! i agree 150% with that- there are sometimes dozens of
little nuances and breaks in songs that you would've never
thought had those.

sometimes there are flashbacks, too.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-06-19 02:34 [#00274066]
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hell no they're not boring. you've heard the phrase, 'God is
in the details', well Autechre have details and to spare,
it's like an ever-changing sequence their songs, that brings
more and more new sonic 'things' to light.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-19 02:42 [#00274069]
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I'd say overall, of COURSE they're not boring, as long as
you're ready to sit down and really listen...

But even then, they've got some duds, and some songs that
just LACK some really interesting ''nuances'' that their
best tracks have.

But they're few and far between, they hit the mark more
often than not.


 

offline cre from reykjavik (Iceland) on 2002-06-19 02:53 [#00274077]
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yes.

i don't know.. i used to love autechre.
but they don't do anything for me anymore. i think they're
dull.

but
under boac is still my favorite song ever.
(i do say that about a lot of songs tho)


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-19 03:10 [#00274080]
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isnt it "the devil is in the details?"

no they are not boring

and good news everyone! i have conquered Confield! I LOVE
IT.

you have to be in the mood... but besides that, i love it!



 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2002-06-19 03:21 [#00274094]
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lentic catachresis: FATALITY!

heh :)


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-19 03:36 [#00274100]
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Lol yah it is "the devil is in the details". . . but let my
ask something:

what's so great about all these subtle things about the
songs? Sometimes I just want to listen to and fully enjoy
something on the first listen, not have to listen to a song
and over again until I can fully enjoy it.

And also, isn't the overall song the real point? Some of
the best tracks I've ever made (with Fruity Loops) only took
me a couple hours to make. I didn't spend hours tweaking
all the effects and making everything peachy-clean. I just
ripped up a new track as quickly as possible, and it
happened to be some of my best material yet. . .


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-19 03:38 [#00274101]
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oi, again with the "i make brilliant stuff in one hour"
junk

subtle things in a song adds character

if you are making a song just to dick around to... sure,
leave out the detail

it can still be good in a way

but if you want to make a song thats dynamic and
powerful.... details...even small ones.... yea


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-19 03:45 [#00274105]
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lol. . . and yes, several songs of mine I HAVE scrapped up
in a couple hours, and they are not piles of shit. They are
thoroughly enjoyable listens.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-19 03:46 [#00274106]
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id like to hear them


 

offline dave from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-06-19 03:48 [#00274111]
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i find them quite entertaining most of the time but some of
there stuff is kind of long and repetitive


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2002-06-19 03:49 [#00274112]
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for me, i liked a lot of ae tracks on first or second
listen. after a couple more, it seems to reach a certain
level of 'goodness'. but after repeated listens, when you
begin to be able to distinguish all those subtle sounds and
details, the track sounds a bit new, fresher and a hell of a
lot stronger. imo, tracks with no details often become dull
and lifeless in no time. after, let's say, 7 or 8 listens,
you're bored with it. but dont get me wrong, im not saying
i dont like simple tracks at all, it's the less-detailed
ones.


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-19 03:50 [#00274113]
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Ok I just added you to my MSN messenger list. . . so I'll
send you one of those songs, because I don't post any of my
songs anywhere on the internet (if only because I'm too
lazy).


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-19 03:51 [#00274115]
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dont have msn....


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-19 03:52 [#00274118]
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Hmm well even if that is the way it is I still won't mind.
Alot of music that I love now more than anything else, I
didn't like or didn't understand when I first heard it.
(Like Aphex Twin himself, I didn't see what was so great
about him at first, and same with John Digweed, and the
progressive house genre in general).


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-19 03:58 [#00274121]
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I must admit, some of it bores me... the first track from
Garbage is an example... but most of it is quite good!!!
Some of their songs are really long... I think it's fine to
have songs over 8 minutes say, but most of an album? That's
a bit long I think...


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-19 04:00 [#00274126]
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How could you NOT have MSN, d00d?


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2002-06-19 04:02 [#00274130]
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autechre is an amazing pair, though it's not my favorite
electronic artist i can still say they are the complete
OPPosite of boring.
=)


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-06-19 04:40 [#00274219]
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At this exact moment, yes.

I don't care for their releases after Tri-Repetae++. I've
listened to them all many times, but just don't care for
them.

Now, if I just count the first 3 albums, I don't find them
boring at all.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-06-19 08:28 [#00274361]
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Okay maybe this will help me:

Name the tracks that YOU think autechre did the best job on
(their best songs), please only list songs from the
following albums (as these are the only ones I have) :

Incunabula
Tri Repetae ++
Confield


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2002-06-19 08:32 [#00274367]
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eutow,basscadet,bine,eidetic casein,pen expers,lentic
catechresis,sim gishel and
c/pach or patch
there is not even one really boring track on these albums i
can think of now


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2002-06-19 08:34 [#00274369]
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maybe bike or doctrine i do not count to there best tracks


 

offline Sepix from Major City (Austria) on 2002-06-19 08:34 [#00274370]
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laughing quarter and cap.iv are my absolute favourites this
month.


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2002-06-19 08:38 [#00274376]
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well i think that incunabula and tri repetae are there
weakest albums. Confield is more like art work than
music.
so you really need to get LP5, EP7 and Chiastic Slide


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-06-19 08:39 [#00274380]
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*sigh*

I'm not spending any more money on Autechre...

*shows empty pockets to everyone*


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2002-06-19 08:40 [#00274381]
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i disagree, confield is music in its most pure form


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2002-06-19 08:43 [#00274386]
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ok. well addmitedly all the tracks on Confield are
repetive, but boring....not to me.. of course it took me
about 6 months to get into that album. then i proclaimed it
the greatest album in the history of the world. now i
think its a damn good one of kind masterpiece.

so not boring. aphex is not boring. shit like
orbital is boring


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-19 08:45 [#00274390]
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I'm probably the complete opposite...I'm not a huge fan of
the early stuff but later on, when they get more
experimental with form & sounds, I can't get enough...



 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2002-06-19 08:48 [#00274399]
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Yes! Whoo yeah autechre are soo very boring...they just go
on and on with no atmosphere......oh geez they send me to
sleep


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2002-06-19 08:49 [#00274401]
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i AGree with jand... although i;ve recently gotten into
amber very much


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-19 09:01 [#00274441]
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autechre has always been background music for me so i dont
pay that much attention.... but i do think they are
talented.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-19 09:41 [#00274504]
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I cant believe some of us think they make boring music.

NO, THEY ARE NOT BORING

try to understand from the whole to the detail, try to
expand your knowledge


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2002-06-19 10:10 [#00274529]
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NO no no no no.

They are the polar oposite of boring for me. When I put
stuff like Confeild on it never fails to completely involve
me in itself.


 

offline uzim on 2002-06-19 10:34 [#00274561]
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sometimes i find it boring...
sometimes i find it really great :)

it depends on my mood...

(it's a bit the same with BoC, but i prefer Ae than BoC)


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-19 11:11 [#00274605]
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well it's just a matter of opinion, isn't it?

i don't listen to incunabula, amber, or tri repetae that
much anymore, but they're not boring, imo. it's just that on
the other albums there's more going on and somehow the songs
work better.

ofcourse, the older works tend to have more monotonous beats
etc. so if you consider that boring, you have a point.


 

offline uzim on 2002-06-19 11:15 [#00274608]
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you can have a point too if you consider the newer stuff
boring... you can pretend it's just silly steam-hammer-like
noise, maybe most "normal" people would agree... :)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-06-19 11:31 [#00274616]
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I'd have to say yes, everything of their's I've heard has
ben too repetative. Even vltrmx21 (their best track IMO) is
too long/repetative.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-19 11:40 [#00274625]
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NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-19 12:14 [#00274659]
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i kinda wish Vietrmx21 would never end.....



 


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