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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 03:32 [#00271884]
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...but different...

it relates, but i thought it should be seperate, just to
avoid confusion.

I like lots of music. I like IDM, i like Jazz, I like
classical, i like rock etc etc

if i released all different sorts of works, would be think i
was selling out, and just trying to captialize on music any
way i could?

i mean, wouldnt it be wierd if you found out RDJ was doing
something like that?

i want to write orchestral peices, i want to write ambient
jazz, i would do rock, if it was fun, and with friends...

would there be less "credibility" if i released alot of
styles

AND

I go to music school... does that give me less street
credibility? all the electronic musicians that are big,
didnt go to school. do you think music school would be
looked badly upon?

thoughts? comments?


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 03:34 [#00271889]
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Why wouldn't you show the people that you can do more than
one style?
This is not selling out.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-18 03:35 [#00271892]
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if you were going to do that, you should release them under
different names, just to save your ass ;D


 

offline Spookyluke from United States on 2002-06-18 03:35 [#00271893]
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I think the reason people look unfavorably upon music school
students is for one reason: lots of them tend to put things
into their music that nobody cares about--like they'll have
lots of really complex chords just for the sake of saying,
"oh it's such and such a chord" or "it's in a certain time
signature" or whatever and they act as though the musical
complexity is what counts, when really it's the overall feel
of the music that counts. How many great songs are fairly
simple musically? Lots! Think of "Imagine" for
instance--that's not such a challenging piano piece for a
novice player, and the vocal part isn't very difficult, just
honest and sincere without all the hassles of making music
complex for no reason!


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-18 03:35 [#00271894]
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you just gotta do what you feel man... you can't worry about
what others think... if you're being true to who you are you
have nothing to worry about!!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 03:38 [#00271898]
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yes, that is my concern with music school too

and i see it

everyone gets so into playing crazy scales and stuff

when i write music, i acctually make a concious decision to
not use what ive learned in harmony, cause it just sounds
bland...

but i really hope it doesnt affect how people look at me


 

offline Spookyluke from United States on 2002-06-18 03:43 [#00271908]
Points: 1955 Status: Lurker



Yah--it's that that makes music students' music sound
boring--they get locked into making every song some
elaborate thing with harmony and melodies and counter
melodies. It's like if painters used complimentary colors
all the time because they learn that in art school.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 03:45 [#00271911]
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but, do you think it would kind of have a placebo affect?

the fact that i go to berklee... people would suddenly get
it in their minds, a view point on me?

im considering not telling anyone that i went to music
school



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-18 03:46 [#00271912]
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I really like elaborate harmonies and all that, the
complicated stuff. It's tough to make great harmonies.

Scales... bleh... listen to heavy metal solos... impressive,
but boring as hell.

But I can listen to the Beach Boys' elaborate harmonies on
the best parts of Pet Sounds all day.


 

offline Spookyluke from United States on 2002-06-18 03:47 [#00271915]
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Nah, it'd probably be okay to say that you went to music
school--just don't make your music sound like you read a
text book and suddenly became the world's greatest composer.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 03:50 [#00271920]
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hehe

im a big fan of non functional harmony

basically it is, you make up your own rules. thats the
simplest way to put it.

id say most of electronic music is based on nonfuntional
harmonies, be it on purposed or coincidence


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 03:53 [#00271923]
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but like, back home, where i grew up, is my best friend

he has a friend that also writes electronic music

but whenever i visit, and we all hangout, he always goes on
discussions about how you cant learn music, and he basically
just doesnt like me.

im afraid that will be a continueing trend


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-18 03:53 [#00271925]
Points: 16280 Status: Lurker | Followup to Ophecks: #00271912



speaking of solos, Joe Satriani knows how to do effective,
complex solos... check out the song Love Thing, or Flying on
a Blue Dream, or Time... each song is amazing!!


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-06-18 03:55 [#00271929]
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selling out is really inmy opinion changing your style to
jump on some bandwagon and play music people like just to
sell records.. when you have one style thats you play and
then your next album is completely diff and you onyl did it
because thats the current craze and its not your best work
from your heart then its pretty much selling out ... i guess


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-06-18 03:57 [#00271933]
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well obviously you need to learn the basics of music and
what not in order to write it effectively but once you learn
the basics you just improvise with you want it sound like ..


also im pretty sure you cant sell out unless you try to, so
dont get so worried


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 04:00 [#00271937]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to b0nk: #00271933



"also im pretty sure you cant sell out unless you try to, so
dont get so worried "

hehehe thanks :)


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 04:00 [#00271940]
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you know what?

the future is fucking scary...

who knows what it holds.

were will i be in 10 years? i know where id like to be....
but were will i end up ? ahhhh

*panic attack*


 


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