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fixer
from concepción (Chile) on 2002-05-31 17:52 [#00244675]
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Tell me your opinion....
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-05-31 17:53 [#00244677]
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What kind of question is that? "techno" also isn't really the word for it. Just stick with "IDM" or intelligent dance music. As for if it exists or not. . . well, it's a real electronica sub-genre, of course it exists!
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hannibal
from United Kingdom on 2002-05-31 18:33 [#00244720]
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i'd say that there's electronic music that requires more thought and attention to detail to produce, and also more concentration to listen to.
pls don't call it idm...it gives me a rash.
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-05-31 18:42 [#00244727]
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Very interesting question. Well, i hate the name IDM (=Intelligent dance music). A lot of "IDM" is danceable. When you say intelligent, you say immediately other styles are not. This is ridiculous. Bye the way, IDM is a new word of the last years. The genre itself exist more than 10 years.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-31 18:46 [#00244730]
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Yes, and only intelligent intellectuals are allowed to listen to it ;)
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-05-31 18:47 [#00244731]
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Yep theres intelligent Techno imo , listen to Aril Brikha "departures in time"
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Dozier
from United States on 2002-05-31 18:50 [#00244732]
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Bleh. I still haven't figured out all the naming conventions. I have only a very shallow grasp of any of the genre's/label's.
As far as any one genre or the other actually existing, that's a subjective question, so you have to answer it for yourself. I'm sure it exists for somebody out there.. ya know?
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-31 19:00 [#00244742]
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I think some techno can be intelligent (plastikman)...but its not as 'intelligent' as autechre.
what do you mean by intelligent?
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uzim
on 2002-05-31 19:43 [#00244796]
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"what do you mean by intelligent?"
good question... not because of the lyrics i reckon! ^^
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-31 20:00 [#00244817]
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it's a stupid fucking confusing offputting elitist label invented by middleclass white boys who don't dance .
music is music and all forms of music need some intelligence to make -
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-05-31 20:02 [#00244820]
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intelligent techno?
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uzim
on 2002-05-31 20:05 [#00244824]
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milkman is a very intelligent song!
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uzim
on 2002-05-31 20:05 [#00244825]
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but i like stupid music, too.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2002-05-31 20:08 [#00244826]
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intelligent or not, if it sounds good i like it...it's as simple as that.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-31 20:11 [#00244829]
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goddamit - what kinda post is this!? one's man's bach is another man's barf! it's all subjective!
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-31 20:13 [#00244831]
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indeed - warp are to blame when they released the artificial intelligence series cos they hated the breakbeat rave of the time - now they play breakbeat at their raves .....
i'ts silly to not have patience with things - every genre will adapt else it get's boring - it's the survival of the fittest in musical trends - and that is where it's intelligence and creativity comes from - also the artistic parameters of the people who make the tracks and the reception to them from the audience..
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-05-31 20:13 [#00244832]
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Not really. . . . everyone on this board MUST to some extent like IDM, since that's what genre Aphex Twin is part of.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-31 20:15 [#00244835]
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i ccan't think of any distinctive characteristics of this so called genre though ..... which makes it rather a non event..
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-31 20:23 [#00244852]
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i know - let's set up a panel of i.d.m fans and play them some music that they can label intelligent to stupid on a one to ten scale - then we can reveal the genre and the actual iq of the artists afterwards and see if they're correct in their assumptions - good idea or absurd?
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uzim
on 2002-05-31 20:28 [#00244858]
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dexter, the leader from offspring, had a microbiology diploma if i remember... so i think he has a quite high IQ, but is his music classified as "intelligent" for all that?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-31 20:31 [#00244859]
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that was an idea? o k
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-31 20:35 [#00244863]
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arent most of their lyrics social commentary? i believe most of the old fogeys that make up Offspring have degrees of some sort....
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-31 20:37 [#00244866]
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what was the 1st "techno" song?
there was a guy making a piece with strings, and he puts the drums to it and thought..... "hey wots this? lets call it techno!" but wot IS that piece?
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uzim
on 2002-05-31 20:43 [#00244874]
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i meant classified as intelligent... as far as i know, "idm" is the only "label" which really claims to be intelligent (the name "idm", not the artists themselves), whereas there is other intelligent music, which doesn't claim to be intelligent...
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-31 23:40 [#00245171]
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they've been making electronic music since the 40's and 50's...and then in the 70's kraftwerk started making electronic dance music ...and then in the 80's some guys in detroit (like juan atkins) started calling the electronic dance music they were making 'techno' ...so im not really sure you could find an official first 'techno' track...
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ElectroMuse
from New York, LES. (Chile) on 2003-06-03 13:28 [#00725724]
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hola chileno, no existe: que clase de clasificacion pedante es esa? intelligence my ass. does it make u pretty smart? music has no need to be this or that u just love music cos its damn good and sorry about my english.... ^__^v
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-06-03 18:23 [#00725976]
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well there is some techno, which is really nice and has "unexpected" elements; you don't know what's going to happen in the track...
check out this previous thread (and download the soundclip):
http://xltronic.com/mb/topic.php3?topic=38611
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-06-03 18:23 [#00725977]
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I'm talking about the style that is known as "techno" today.
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alnuit
on 2003-06-03 21:54 [#00726103]
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Funny...prolly a few members on this board don't even fancy that Richard bloke's music too much.
Stop calling it names and just learn to enjoy it. If pressed to describe, it can easily be described as plain ol' honest-to-goodness electronic music.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-03 22:00 [#00726108]
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deathsmith: your avatar looks like "piggy" from lord of the flies.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-06-03 22:20 [#00726115]
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does techno really exist?
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-06-03 22:34 [#00726118]
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Does intelligence really exist?
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mimi
on 2003-06-03 23:29 [#00726129]
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i never really thought of "intelligent" dance music as referring to mental capacity...i had thought it was kind of the same sort of use as the word in the phrase "intelligent life." until everyone starts calling their songs 2348.ii and brigramic reflections and other dumb, shitty names.
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kikkx
from 3rd world country on 2003-06-04 00:57 [#00726168]
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think the guy who invented the first electronic tube [or whatever it's called] made it... if we can have a recording of that...
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kikkx
from 3rd world country on 2003-06-04 00:58 [#00726169]
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think the guy who invented the first electronic tube [or whatever it's called] made it... if we can have a recording of that...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-04 00:58 [#00726170]
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think the guy who invented the first electronic tube [or whatever it's called] made it... if we can have a recording
of that...
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alnuit
on 2003-06-04 01:03 [#00726171]
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ha ha :))
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-06-04 01:52 [#00726193]
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A wise man once said "There are only two sorts of music, good and bad"
Who can tell me who said it though, hmmm? (Clue, it wasn't me) ;-)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-06-04 01:54 [#00726197]
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SIPHON PYTHON!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-04 01:54 [#00726198]
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probably the guy who invented the first electronic tube [or
whatever it's called] made it... if we can have a recording
of that...
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-06-04 01:54 [#00726199]
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I'm sure it was coined about five minutes after that damn 2 Unlimited song that went "techno techno techno techno"
And yeah, obviously some dance music isn't intelligent!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-04 08:11 [#00726587]
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this guy makes a pretty convincing argument for its existence... top right
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-06-04 09:30 [#00726653]
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Do you view techno as some infrior kind of music ?!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-04 09:38 [#00726659]
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...apart from RnB, Trance and Deep House. Sorry, cheap shot I know, but it was too tempting to resist :)
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