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offline Archrival on 2002-05-29 09:33 [#00240203]
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Take the songs as pictures.

Before videos fucked up music, you would hear something on
the radio and as there was no video, each song meant
something different to everyone as they all had their own
mental picture of it.

Now every time you hear a song, you think of the video, or
you yearn for a video.

Use your fucking imagination, clone.

Motherfuckers are walking around with no thought - people
got their vices and their escapes and shit like that, but
nobody uses their imagination nowadays :(



 

offline Archrival on 2002-05-29 09:34 [#00240207]
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Gantz Graf this and Gantz Graf that...its a pretty cool
video, but the song SUCKS, it aint even about music these
days........


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-29 09:34 [#00240209]
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Video killed the radio star?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-29 09:35 [#00240210]
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Hip hop videos are the worst. Check Big Pimpin by Jay-Z for
example.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-29 09:35 [#00240212]
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My thoughts exactly

Now who wants a stupid peice of toffey?


 

offline damion from Auckland (New Zealand) on 2002-05-29 10:03 [#00240235]
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depends
i really dig alot of music videos
but you dont really have to worry archival most of the music
videos being made today are for the pop - hip hop genre
but once in awhile theres a video that really works with a
song
chemical brothers- star guitar
aphex twins - come to daddy
theres loads
there was some good ones back in the early 90s alternitive
rock era


 

offline Archrival on 2002-05-29 10:44 [#00240249]
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I aint talking about my man Cunninghams work (he actually
got skills and can make a decent video) I really liked those
he made fo AFX.

Yes, im talking about cunts like Hype Williams etc etc.



 

offline Archrival on 2002-05-29 10:45 [#00240250]
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There was actually some good hip hop videos back in the
"goood old daysss".


 

offline Archrival on 2002-05-29 10:59 [#00240255]
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Its like if you are blind you can still see "the video" if
the song is nice....
Thats what Aphex Twins, BoCs, Squares and AEs songs are to
me.

They are fucking VIVID!!!!!!! - close your eyes and you can
picture shit, you know?

Weak ass music with weak ass videos is for the sleepwalkers,
for stupid fucking conformist assholes...



 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-05-29 11:04 [#00240259]
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Hip hop videos do have plenty of top totty though.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-29 11:14 [#00240267]
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I dont agree..... I really dont.


 

offline Chri5py from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-29 11:21 [#00240269]
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Reflex, will you check out all 4 of my tunes please?

not the best ones on there yet but;

http://www.mp3.com.au/Chri5py
Cheers


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-29 11:22 [#00240271]
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I agree in a way.... kinda like how reading a book is a far
more active experience than seeing the film....

The best videos I think are ones where the sound/visuals are
created together...rather than being tacked on as a promo
device...

REFLEX: .... tell us more....couldn't work out what you were
disagreeing with....


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-29 11:27 [#00240274]
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why does some people write aphex twinS? i think they mean
it's a group, or two peoples, funny :)


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-29 12:05 [#00240301]
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good music videos are cool to see and reflect more what the
artist wanted to express in his song. i don't think it
deprives you from something, many videos are only
"improvements" — a good example (if you like it, of
course) is marilyn manson's tourniquet video, by floria
sisgimondi, which makes the idea of the song clearer but
without depriving the listener from imaginating things. on
the contrary, it even incitates you to imagine more, since
it has ambiguous scenes (for example, when you see manson
with tubes/cables into his mouth, with the marionette beside
him)...

the only video i regret having seen is plaid — eyen. it's
the only one i know who makes the song less enjoyable... :(


 

offline Archrival on 2002-05-29 14:37 [#00240607]
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.....that Eyen video........yeah it destroyed my lovely
picture..that video always pops up ;)


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-05-29 18:18 [#00240963]
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I'd have to agree with you about a lot of hip hop & pop
videos I suppose. Style without substance, just people
dancing around and stuff is not an effective use of the
medium. In these cases, the music video is used more as a
promotional tool for an album or single, rather than an
artistic expression.


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-29 19:40 [#00241054]
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most videos (mainly rap & r'n'b) i see on tv are
hilarious... so ridiculous... i don't care since i don't
like the songs anyway ^^

(btw, i miss jade xlr... am i the only one? :))


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-29 19:45 [#00241062]
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That post could have been mine.

agreed on the video's and
I miss Jade too.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-29 20:13 [#00241099]
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on a related note, does anyone reading this have any of the
following videos that i'm looking for
----
A Perfect Circle - The Hollow
Add N To (X) - Plug Me In
Add N To (X) - Revenge Of The Black Regent
Add N To (X) - Robot Fingers In My Body
Air - (all videos)
Autechre - Gantz Graf
Beck - Sexx Laws
Bjork - Pagan Poetry live on TOTP
Busta Rhymes - Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See
Cibo Matto - Sugar Water
The Coup - 5 Million Ways To Kill A C.E.O.
Daft Punk - Da Funk
Deltron 3030 - Positive Contact
Deltron 3030 - Virus
Drowning Pool - Sinners
Fiona Apple - Sleep To Dream (non-avi)
Future Sound Of London - My Kingdom (Part 5)
Future Sound Of London - We Have Explosive
Future Sound Of London - ISDN video
Future Sound Of London - Teachings From The Electronic Brain
II
Garbage - Queer
Gorillaz - Rock The House
Incubus - Pardon Me (Live on MAD TV)
Leftfield - Afrika Shox
Les Nubians - Les Portes Du Souvenir
Lo Fidelity All-Stars - Battle Flag
Lovage - (short film)
Ludacris - Rollout
Madonna - Music
Marilyn Manson - Anti-Christ Superstar
Method Man - Judgement Day
Michael Jackson - Ghosts (short film)
Michael Jackson - Leave Me Alone
Mogwai - Christmas Steps
Mogwai - Dial: Revenge
Mogwai - Stanley Kubrick
Mogwai - Summer [UK and US]
Nas - One Mic
Neil Young - This Note's For You
Nine Inch Nails - Broken (full)
Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
Pras, ODB, Mya, Wyclef, Canibus - Ghetto Superstar VMA's
'98
Prince Paul - A Prince Among Thieves
Radiohead - I Might Be Wrong (mainstream)
Radiohead - Lucky
Radiohead - Optimistic (studio)
Rage Against The Machine - Bulls On Parade (Live on SNL)
Rage Against The Machine - People Of The Sun
Republica - Drop Dead Gorgeous
RZA - Holocaust
Scarface f/ 2Pac - Smile
Sinead O'Connor - Troy
Soul Assassins f/ B-Real & Dr. Dre - Puppet Master
Soul Coughing - Super Bon Bon
Spice Girls - Wannabe
Tori Amos - Hey Jupiter
UNKLE - Be There
Wu-Tang Clan - Can It Be All So Simple
Wu-Tang Clan - I Can't Go To Sleep


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-29 20:27 [#00241108]
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for the broken movie, maybe you can try fall-apart.net. it
has all nin videos available, including the broken movie
(but i didn't try it).


 

offline hungrig from Sweden on 2002-05-29 20:44 [#00241122]
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i sure could use some of that toffey...


 

offline ExHore from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-05-29 20:50 [#00241133]
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oh god theres certain radiohead tracks i dont listen to
because of seeing the video for it


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-29 20:53 [#00241138]
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U know, your all to blame. You spend to much time watching
the tube. I haven't watched MTV since i was 10, and from
what i've heard its all crappy programing ever since. Maybe
u should just tune out...and think for a change.....maybe
read a book too


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-29 20:57 [#00241148]
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don't jump to conclusions; i don't have cable and i only
watch 2 shows a week - x-files and family guy, and neither
have been on air lately. i even stopped watching the news
cos it was all bullshit terrorism coverage.

i like (some) music videos cos i love music and i like great
visuals, and that's my word.


 

offline ExHore from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-05-29 20:59 [#00241149]
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i dont watch mtv anymore


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-29 21:00 [#00241150]
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i don't watch videos on TV — they never air music i like
anyway. i (try to) download mpegs. i don't think i can be
blamed for watching TV too often, i only watch it for
something like 1 hour per day...

(i spend too much time on my computer though)


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-29 21:01 [#00241153]
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mtv?! ha! i stopped watching that almost at least 2 years
ago!


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-29 21:01 [#00241155]
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in fact i rarely watch tv in general these days


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-29 21:03 [#00241159]
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then how can everyone bitch about seeing these videos if
they're not watching tv?



 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-29 21:12 [#00241177]
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i think archrival was complaining about how music videos
take away the listeners' imagination, depriving them of
their own feelings and thoughts about the music. you can see
something just once and your perspective of the song can be
"ruined."


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-29 21:22 [#00241191]
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yeah...like when music is used in an advert...

Difficult to divorce the 2 once you've seen em
together....(mentioning no nmaes. MOBY...fucker)...;)



 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-29 21:38 [#00241217]
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I listen to music strictly for the mental images. and when I
say images, I mean intricate, detailed images, with specific
colours, emotions, and plotlines going on.

so I try not to watch videos. but this probably also means
that I'll end up working with/making visual interpretations
of music (i.e. videos) in the future.


 

offline ExHore from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-05-29 21:53 [#00241234]
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theres such thing as downloading them


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2002-05-29 22:22 [#00241252]
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Hype Williams & Paul Hunter had some pretty intresting
visual Ideas BACK IN THE DAY; his style was new and fresh,
but than Hype copied himself and others copied Hype, and
thats why all those Hip Hop videos look all the same today.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-30 02:25 [#00241509]
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videos are great when done well...i think it can add to the
experience...usually with my favorite songs..ill have
visuals in my head which i would like to make into
videos...im taking a video class next year...so well see how
that turns out...

i suppose you could be right about videos ruining peoples
imagination...in my case they've only enhanced it...i guess
if people's imaginations are ruined simply by watching too
many videos...then they probably werent too imaginitve to
begin with...

seeing videos i liked is what pretty much got me into
music... my first favorite band was radiohead...and that
resulted from seeing paranoid android...that pretty much got
me into music...and then i saw the video for come to
daddy...
i probably wouldnt have heard of these artists otherwise..


 

offline J and The B from Chesterland, Ohio (United States) on 2002-05-30 02:39 [#00241525]
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pop/hiphop videos are just bam bam bam!


 

offline J and The B from Chesterland, Ohio (United States) on 2002-05-30 02:41 [#00241526]
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no substance


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-30 03:14 [#00241571]
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Kill U'r T.V.'s


 


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