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Good, Bad? Discuss. |
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wtf is dub music? |
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i dont know what dub is exactly... i dont understand why pole is considered dub. |
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it's reggae with lots of studio trickery: crazy echo and various effects. |
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ehhhh....not much for reggae..... |
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Its kind of considered to be the 'Electronic' kind of raggae... The orb had a heavy dub sound in their music. FSOL kind of does too, but not really in more recent work (I guess the same goes for the orb). |
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yeah it's alrighty... *pops in some Mad Professor :) |
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old massive attack is somewhat "dub"... right? |
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educate yoself: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=C616 |
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My thoughts on dub are mixed. I really like what FSOL did with it and even Loop Guru, but that's about it. |
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i don´t like dub reggae. i do like Tosca, Pezce Orchestra, Kruder & Dorfmeister and some others, "Fuck Dub", if you know what i mean. ;) |
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Tosca Peace Orchestra Loop Guru As far as I understand it arent really dub. Never really listened to Kruder & Dorfmeister... but if I am not mistaken they is kinda more Drum n Bass. |
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hmmmmm nope. they re-mix tracks and fuse ´em....not very drum & bass, although it isn´t actually hip hop nor dub. Kruder & Dorfmeister are f*kin´awesome, you should check´em out |
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Loop Guru isn't dnb by any reguards. I guess then if not dub, then GOA, since their use of eastern influences. |
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check out the track "bankrobber" the clash did with dub producer mikey dredd back in the day, pretty hot. as for more contemporary electronica style dub, i like fsol, mad professor/massive attack, and even - i gotta say it - gorillaz ("sound check", "new genious"). |
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No... I didn't say they were dnb... I was talking about kruder and dorfmeister. I would call Loop Guru World Fusion. Or Techno (ghasp!!). |
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you all should check out the essence of dub, it's first form: the dub originator King Tubby's work from 1970's! |
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dub is nice, much sub tunes and basses, reggae riffs and so on, but i love dub'n'drums, deep sub basses with simple easy drum rhythms.. |
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I am not a really big fan of older dub music. The fact that recording studio technology was so limited at the time makes it impressive, but the sound quality is usually so poor I can't enjoy it. The reason I posted this thread was because I just downloaded Thomas Fehldman's album "Good Fridge Flowing..." and was kind of tripping off of it. It sounds like a younger version of the Orb circa Orbus Terrerum. The reason I searched it out was because of the Orb connection. I have been kind of going back through all the ellectronic music I used to listen to and rediscovered my love for the Orb. Respect!!! |
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i love the old dub, tubby, lee perry, scientist, jammy... but when these people hit the 80's it went terribly wrong... electric drums and digital echos replacing kettles and tape-echos and spring reverbs, just horrible sounds and no real feeling. |
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I have 'Drum and Bass Stripped to the Bone' by Sly and Robbie, mixed by Howie B. It tends to get a bit boring. I love the Mad Professor's remix of Massive Attack. I keep meaning to check out his own stuff. Any tips? Yeah the 80s stuff sounds bad. In fact, everything with an 80s production pretty much sounds cheap, tinny and dated. Damn that decade! |
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That about sums up everything for the eighties in general as far as I am concerned. But I really can't listen to anything pre-1990. I just can't get past the poor sound quality. Altho when it comes to some of the older jazz recordings I am usually a bit more forgiving. |
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I almost went and saw the mad professor live 3 years ago for the low low price of $5 US when I lived in Florida. I couldn't find a ride tho... so I didn't go. |
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Find some "Asian Dub Foundation" tracks, it's a good jungle/drum'n'bass band. |
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I have to say Neu-neu, you pic is prolly the most disturbing avatar I have seen in here. |
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the nz music scene is infested with dub and dub/ska um .. crossovers and such .. its ok .. some good .. but because there is so much of it, it gets a little boring after a while. (there seems to be a distinct use of timing for the bass and such) .. fuck my hands are too cold to type properly. |
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oh man, i love the old sounds! 60 & 70's sounded so good... all analog gear hissing and tubes distorting the sound, tape-echoes wobbling, echo chambers and spring reverbs clanging and vinyl cracking... sorry if i made you vomit you hi-fist... :P |
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Sly & Robbie have been producing No Doubt. No doubt that's a dumb thing to do. |
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yes, although i really like king tubby for example, i can't listen to it an hour straight. i once did, actually three hours... i had three tubby compilations playing and i just laid on the floor. but it was an overdose. of dub, not any drug... |
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fat kaimo: yeah some lee scratch or something can be quite fun. but listening to more than one cd straight i find a bit much (generally?) .. i've got the "dub missions vol 2." cd.. its like remixes of old dub tunes by the likes of k&d, thievery corp. et al. so i guess that could be called electronic dub or whatever?? |
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and to listen to certain type of music requires certain kind of feeling for me. i haven't felt "dub" for a long time, i've been into all these "dark canadian groups" for a while now... |
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Its all good. I am a production snob. I fully admit it ;) But hey, more power to you if you don't care whether or not you can hear the music ;P |
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Dark Canadian Groups? Like Godspeed? My roomate calls it suicide music. |
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Has anyone heard Death in Vegas' firts album? There's some good dub-inflected stuff on there. They sampled a great Sly & Robbie bassline. |
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hehee... yes i care for the music... i just like different kind of sounds, and often i don't like them to be too clean like in a lot of todays music they are. and some people call me a "production snob" too because i really care about the sound, in a different way than you maybe. |
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I like some of the 'weathered' sounds of todays artists... I just don't like it when it not intended to sound like that... It kinda makes me feel sorry for the musician like "oh my god... they are trying to sound crisp but they can't... thats so cute but pathetic" and I start to feel guilty for some reason. |
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that too. i absolutely love it. maybe i should get some tubby to my recordplayer, the sun is shining and all... |
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haha, that's nice. yes, crap sound sometimes just are crap sounds... |
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Anyone like Horace Andy? There's some dub remixes of his stuff that are great. |
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yes, i've heard "in light/in light dub" which is quite good. it has both the original version and the version dubbed by prince jammy i believe. andy's got a great voice. he's on some massive attack songs too. |
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He's got the best voice in reggae that I've heard. I never have got into Bob Marley for some reason, even though people elevate him to such a high status. I never got the Beatles either but that's another story... |
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bob marley is pretty much pop actually. |
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Yeah, give me Eddy Grant any day. |
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Love DUB !!!!!!! And i agree with what Fat Kaimo said about the 80's , the really great dub era ended there.... |
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Also a "dub" of something, instead of a remix, means that it is a version/remix without the vocals in the original. Usually if it includes the vocals it will be called "vocal mix/remix" or "full vocal" something like that, and a dub mix, as is aforementioned, usually excludes vocals. |
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Dub is something like Ragga, i think. Asian Dub Foundation sounds like drum'n'bass mixed with ragga samples and some downbeats. They also uses MCs. It was really sounding like ragga, instead that it had drum'n'bass rhythm the half-time. |
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