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offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2002-05-26 13:34 [#00235468]
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?? some of you will kill me for saying this but hearing the
second album on Tri Repetae leads to believe they're


 

offline artemis from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-05-26 14:22 [#00235478]
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Autechre sounds definately not jazzy! Listen to old Dan
Curtin or Carl Craig records, this is great jazzy techno.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:50 [#00235498]
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I don't ever want to see Autechre and Techno in the same
sentence ever again got that? lol :)


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-26 14:52 [#00235500]
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techno..............ewwww horrible term used in america


 

offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2002-05-26 14:53 [#00235502]
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electronic musicians sound more fitting?


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:53 [#00235503]
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you better believe it. I loathe it. I wish the word techno
would go away...disco too. both are bad.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:54 [#00235504]
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it does children :)

Okay children, gather around...it's story time ;) lol jk


 

offline Thelonious Punk from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 14:55 [#00235507]
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there is such a thing as techno, but no one but Europeans
with bad taste are into it.

I don't see how aphex or Boc or Autechre ever got boxed into
it..hrrmm..


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-26 14:57 [#00235508]
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I just use electronic


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:58 [#00235509]
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that picture really frightens me Thelonious @_@ its like a
bill gates muppet. Americans / Canadians (all but us lol)
are really dumb and think everything is techno. it's how
they are. they're all so stuck up on their pop music.


 

offline Thelonious Punk from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 14:58 [#00235510]
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so do I.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:59 [#00235511]
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same here


 

offline Thelonious Punk from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 14:59 [#00235512]
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Amonbrune-huh? Yeah I know freaky isn't he.. A white house
sock puppet! hehe..


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 15:01 [#00235514]
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oh, i thought it was bill gates. still scary even if its
not :)


 

offline Thelonious Punk from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 15:03 [#00235516]
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Well, it is bill gates, a sock puppet of him, in front of
governmental buildings.

(:



 

offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2002-05-26 15:05 [#00235519]
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whats it suppose to mean? bill gates owns the gov't or is it
the other way around?


 

offline Thelonious Punk from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 15:09 [#00235527]
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Its up to you to interpret it how you interpret it.

(;



 

offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2002-05-26 15:10 [#00235528]
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i think he owns... for the time being


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-26 17:59 [#00235760]
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actually, when I first started listening to Dael, I thought
it sounded jazzy in a weird sort of way... something about
the synths sound like horns...


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-26 18:11 [#00235791]
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i always see autechre as the electronic Sonic Youth - very
psychedelic yet very danceable at times


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-26 18:31 [#00235822]
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irritatingly enough, i say idm


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-26 19:27 [#00235871]
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"techno..............ewwww horrible term used in america"

"I wish the word techno
would go away..."

I completely agree that music like aphex and autechre
shouldnt be classified as techno, but why do so many people
seem disgusted by the term 'techno' ?

like B3n said, this term is widely used in the U.S, for
basically every form of electronic music. The same goes for
the word 'rave' and because of that 'techno' has become such
a stereotypical term that it is completely FUCKED.

Obviously, 'real' techno is still a really unknown kind of
music to a lot of people here, which is fine, but therefore
its evenmore messed up that its image gets damaged by
prejudiced people.

examples of good techno artists:

ken ishii
steve rachmad
monika kruse
dave clarke
surgeon
john thomas
jeff mills
etc..

listen to their music before you (i'm not talking to anybody
in particular) generalise it by thinking its the same thing
as trance, house and other electronic music.


 

offline Archrival on 2002-05-26 20:08 [#00235976]
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Dont u dare mention Autechre and Techno in the same
sentence ever again!!!! ;)

They make music.



 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-26 20:13 [#00235998]
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archrival knows what's up


 

offline kolpanikus from d (Antigua And Barbuda) on 2002-05-26 20:14 [#00236003]
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what a load of crap!


 

offline grinningcat from london (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-26 21:38 [#00236202]
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i'd agree with u on that one. i've always thought the same.

similarities: how the track seems freeform, how certain
melodies/sounds weave in and out, how the tracks build over
10mins etc

i think they are electronic jazz defiantely.

they are the electronic miles davis and john coltrane


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-05-26 21:45 [#00236211]
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i call it electronic music.
i think their music pushes the envelope like jazz does, not
that they sound jazzy really, but just today i was thinking
they are similar to jazz. also to psychedelic music yep i
agree, and hip-hop. didn't ae say they make folk music?


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-26 22:51 [#00236325]
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I think you may mean, Squarepusher = jazzy electronic. NOT
autechre.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-26 23:26 [#00236351]
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i dont think he meant they they were jazzy in the way they
sound instrumentally...like squarepusher...
but have a similar musicality to free jazz...seemingly
abstract randomness grounded in music theory...which is
something ae and free jazz have in common...i think theres
even a review on a sticker on the us lp5 that called them
electronic free jazz.... and they have said in interviews
that they're big jazz fans...

and as far as calling ae 'techno'...it isnt so wrong...since
'real' techno (like the detroit stuff j198 mentioned) seems
to be a big influence on them ...hell..incunabula could be
called a techno album..they just kinda took their influences
off in their own direction and mixed them with other
influences...like hip hop and acedemic electronic music..
even jazz..to make someting original which cant be defined
by a genre title (idm doesnt count) which i think is what
all musicians should (or do) strive for


 

offline ExHore from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-05-26 23:41 [#00236374]
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i hate the term techno, kill it.


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-05-26 23:59 [#00236394]
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There's nothing wrong with the word Techno when it's used in
the right context(i.e. Detroit Techno). Sure the word isn't
used properly in America, but when it is what's so bad about
it?


 

offline Sand Lepus from Louisville (United States) on 2002-05-27 00:14 [#00236411]
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Sort of along the lines of what Archrival said:
Don't you dare mention Autechre and jazz in the same
sentence ever again!


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-27 00:26 [#00236417]
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yeah...the term techno isnt so bad..considering it is one of
the few genre titles that was actually invented by the
people who 'invented' the genre...i think juan atkins was
the first to use it ...which is appropriate since he was
among the first to actually make 'techno' ...usually genre's
get titled by jounalists...leaving everyone whose actually
involved with the music with a label they hate (cough *idm*
cough)


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-27 00:30 [#00236419]
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but then of course you have all the kids who know nothing
about electronic music calling everything with even a hint
of a synthesizer or drum machine 'techno'
which can be annoying i guess...but dont blame the
word..blame those who are too lazy to use it properly


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-05-27 03:01 [#00236522]
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exactly.


 

offline ExHore from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-05-27 03:08 [#00236526]
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kill america then?


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-05-27 03:09 [#00236528]
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ehhh...overrated to SOME extent.


 

offline J and The B from Chesterland, Ohio (United States) on 2002-05-27 03:13 [#00236533]
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I'd say that Autechre isn't jazzy at all considering that it
is a lot of repetition which is about the opposite of true
jazz...


 

offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2002-05-27 03:56 [#00236549]
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i really enjoy their music, i apologize for the autechre
fans... in the US we label all artists under electronic as
techno...


 


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