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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:33 [#00234398]
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name one person who is the most responsible for modern music as we know it today. could be any person in history in any style as long as you can think of a good reason he affected music more than anyone else. actually it doesnt even necessarily need to be a musicain.
im not even sure if i have an answer yet i just thought this would get some interesting responses.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-25 12:34 [#00234400]
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pink floyd
Influenced so many different music styles. Especially modern electronic music.
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nacmat
on 2002-05-25 12:37 [#00234402]
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stravinsky beatles kraftwerk
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-25 12:39 [#00234404]
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i personally would like to thank the smashing pumpkins for creating a guitar style that i much admire and unshamefully copy.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:40 [#00234405]
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wait ive got it! no one can debate this i just thought of it. thomas edison. first person to achieve recording of sound.
i think it was him anyway.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-25 12:42 [#00234406]
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radiohead
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:44 [#00234407]
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but edison recorded sound. without him we wouldnt have anything we have now musically.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-25 12:45 [#00234409]
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Raymond Scott for his development of the analogue sequencer
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nacmat
on 2002-05-25 12:47 [#00234412]
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thats ridiculous cos music would have existed anyway... mozart?
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:47 [#00234413]
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ah but raymond scott would only contribute to electronic music. i was wondering about modern music in general.
although raymond scott was a badass ill admit.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:49 [#00234414]
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true it would have existed without recorded sound but it wouldnt have evolved the same being that we wouldnt have the influences of our cds when we go to make music. right?
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-25 12:50 [#00234415]
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enrico caruso one of the first people to make an audio recording of high class opera bringing the rich folks music to the general public!
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nacmat
on 2002-05-25 12:50 [#00234417]
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music wouldnt be the same without Julio Iglesias
:-)
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 12:51 [#00234418]
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Marie Curie, Inventor of Electricity ,maybe?
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 12:52 [#00234420]
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...and her husband,who supported her!
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:52 [#00234421]
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enrico caruso, good one its good to learn that stuff.
what about say if someone helped enrico? like the guy that financed his project or something? i dont know im just thinking alot.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-25 12:53 [#00234422]
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Beatles.
Just listen to Tomorrow Never Knows... that is SO GOD DAMN ELECTRONIC!!! And it was NINETEEN BLOODY SIXTY SIX!!!!
They still sound so contemporary today because they pioneered so many sounds, used so many great ideas.
So the one person I think is most important is John Lennon... and if they had the equipment we have today, I'd be horrified to hear the amazing stuff he could do with it.
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-25 12:54 [#00234423]
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some cave man dude who bashed a couple of midi daisy chained rocks together!
whilst grunting!
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:54 [#00234424]
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wow i didnt even know a woman invented electricity. or rather found it... its always existed no? but still thats cool. i find it ironic that woman are repressed so much but we owe all of our modern electrical life to one.
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nacmat
on 2002-05-25 12:55 [#00234427]
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but paul was great too and he is doing nothing
why?
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:55 [#00234428]
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leave it to him to bring up the beatles again.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 12:56 [#00234431]
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...and she died of it (Cancer I think) She didn't know it was radioactive.
=(
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-25 12:57 [#00234434]
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Yeah the floyd definitely
but I think definitely the originals from the jazz scene, jazz has had such a profound influence of the shaping of music in the 20th century
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:57 [#00234435]
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wow thats a really cool fact man. i wanna read up more on her.
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nacmat
on 2002-05-25 12:57 [#00234436]
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marie curie didnt do anything about electricity... it was about I dont know...but surely not electricity... I think it was something about radioactivity
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nacmat
on 2002-05-25 12:59 [#00234440]
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electricity its not radiactive...she investigated on radious (spell?) nothing to do with electricity
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:59 [#00234441]
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id agree with jazz godfather type people. but still edison and marie curie, edison recorded sound and marie curie created electricity.
i think this post should just end now cause they are by far the most responsibile for modern music :) end of story. hehe.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-25 13:01 [#00234442]
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surely Marie Curie was one of the 2 people to invent the x-ray? and died from using it too much,..
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-25 13:01 [#00234443]
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kraftwerk
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 13:02 [#00234445]
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I'm gonna kill my history teacher!
no, made this mistake because my english is not so good.
...sorry...
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:02 [#00234446]
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well the other guy said something about radioactivity too.
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nacmat
on 2002-05-25 13:02 [#00234447]
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didnt you read what i posted. marie curie didnt do anything with electricity!!!!!!!!!!!!
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:04 [#00234448]
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sorry i didnt realise this thread had already gotten to two pages long.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 13:05 [#00234449]
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...but I really thought she had something to do with it...
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:07 [#00234450]
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i actually never saw the magic in kraftwerk. i downloaded a bunch of their tunes off napster once to see what they were made of cause i was told they were like godfathers of electro but i just didnt get it. maybe i wasnt mature enough then i dont know.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-25 13:09 [#00234452]
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Kraftwerk is OK, but they don't impress me too much. Maybe in the context of the time they doing it in, but the Beatles still sound so damn cool.
Beatlesbeatlebeatlebeatlesbeatles
I think the Who is damn underrated, Townshend is a god, a motherfuddrucking god.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:15 [#00234461]
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the who was cool, im just so tired of the beatles. i think they were the early days of record companies learning to market stars. the equivalent of a boyband really.
ill get crap for that im sure. but i dont think most any star gets that big on their own merits its all marketing.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-25 13:18 [#00234467]
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Yep, you WILL get crap for that... boyband?
You just lost all credibility with me. :-/
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-25 13:19 [#00234472]
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Lennon alone was not the beatles.. AHEM, George Harrison was one of the most influential guitarists of all time as well as one of the most underrated ones. Remember, it was he who made all their songs memorable with his stylized guitar hooks and even his introduction of eastern sounds into the west. Also keep in mind it was a FACT he knew more chords then both John and Paul.
As for a modern ‘band’ that I think have been influential, I’d go with Radiohead. In terms of modern MUSCIANS well, I’d surely rank Richard D. James highly.
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-25 13:20 [#00234474]
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And if we started to get into things like Jazz and classical music well, I wouldn't know where to draw the line.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:21 [#00234478]
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i didnt say they were a boyband, i said they are the marketing equivalent. not a whole lot better ill admit but those guys were stars before anyone even heard them.
im not a big believer in the music industry. we push music as a business far too much and make people far more popular than they could ever get on the music alone. this goes for any artist that has ever been huge. there was always clever marketing tricks behind the stars and it wasnt only about the music. not that marketing shouldnt exist it just takes away credability as a musician and makes you a business man. or a puppet.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-25 13:22 [#00234479]
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The monkees were a boyband, I don't regard the beatles as such (even if i'm not a huge fan)
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-25 13:24 [#00234482]
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What the hell are you talking about? They were one of the FEW anti commercialistic bands of the time and indeed history. They refused to tour when they started to get really, really huge.. They just totally dropped their main tour.
Its a bit secular to say they were commercialistic when you consider the industry back then AND HELL TODAY, it can't factor into it. Even punk bands are sell outs to an extent dammit.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-25 13:25 [#00234483]
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I don't care about the marketing or how popular they were, fact is, they're music was awesome and trail blazing.
What the hell does them being HUGE have to do with the fact that they were innovators... they might have got their push through marketing, but they proved their mettle through their music...
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:25 [#00234485]
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exactly i dont regard them as a boyband, but you have to admit there was so much hype behind them. the hippies needed music and the companies gave them some heros. it wasnt only the music, ill admit they had some inovative songs, but the hype was there too and anyone who doesnt see that... well...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-25 13:25 [#00234486]
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kraftwerk
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:27 [#00234488]
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thats just it, i respect them but at the same time i think people have a misconception of them as being rocks all time greatest artists and i dont think they were anywhere near such.
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-25 13:27 [#00234489]
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The beatles weren't selling their music to ad agencies at the time.. Aphex twin is today however.. So what, he's still no moby or friggin nsync. Talent above all else is what should REALLY matter, and in that department the beatles above all the filtered crap you get today.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:29 [#00234492]
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aphex came from underground as a cult artist and made it to the top after working for over a decade. i dont think the beatles can say they did the same.
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Tropa
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2002-05-25 13:30 [#00234493]
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Yep, Marie and Pierre Curie were the pioneers in radioactivity research. Not much to do with electricity in the traditional sense.
For electricity, on the other hand I don't think a single person can be credited. The first known observations on electricity were made by Thales in 600 B.C. He concluded that a piece of amber had to have a soul because it could attract lifeless objects towards itself. Since then quite a few scientists have taken part in studying electricity: Volta, Franklin, Coulomb, Faraday, Maxwell, Edison and Ampère to name a few. Not many women tho.
I've been reading way too much physics lately. :)
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