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offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-24 13:42 [#00233121]
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I think that people tend to focus too much on what is bad
about music or movies, they forget about what is good about
it and let the bad points dominate. Because of this our
opinion of what is good is getting narrower all the time.
Instead of evolving the art, it ruins all the fun IMHO....
What do you think?


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:35 [#00233254]
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negative comments are more unifying accross a broad
spectrum

It is generally assumed that people on this board do not
like pop music. On this board then it is possible to talk
about the nuiances (sp?) of some piece because we are
generally in agreement that techno/IDM/whatever the fuck you
wanna call this, is "good" music.

A magazine, doesn't have that ability, as they need to sell
copies. In that case, a negative connotation gives people
something to read about, they don't feel their own tastes
are being threatened, and maybe they will buy the mag.

To me, it comes to something very simple. I enjoy lots of
music, especially rock music. Good music though, good,
timeless music though, for me is a group/band that puts out
music that they love. Music that they play to get out their
emotions and tell a story.

Songs on the radio i generally consider too broad to be
honest and emotional, not to say I don't enjoy some, but
it's like conversations and people, there are a lot out, no
point in not enjoying as much as you can, but the true
golden ones for each person only come along after much
searching, and like you said, this leaves much opportunity
for negativity.


 

offline Monumrnt from To (Canada) on 2002-05-24 15:40 [#00233262]
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I think you are right because those bad things get quite
annoying. One way of getting noticed is to be annoying and
that is what is constantly happening with pop-culture.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-24 15:42 [#00233263]
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"One way of getting noticed is to be annoying and
that is what is constantly happening with pop-culture. "

I agree totally. Look at the negative lyrics of some rap and
rock music. Lots of celebrities seem to have become famous
through being irritating too...



 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 15:59 [#00233281]
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I sooo agree.... no time to write a longer reply at mo but
will do later...it's something I've been thinking about for
a while...De/RePressive Culture vs Ex/Permissive Culture....


 

offline Monumrnt from To (Canada) on 2002-05-24 16:02 [#00233283]
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In my opinion when a person does not know whether he/she is
annoyed because something noticed or is noticing something
when annoyed is an excellent basis for hatred. So like,
make everyone hate you and than assimilate everything they
do against you = evolution of pop-culture.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-24 16:04 [#00233285]
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I know, for them, the only way out is to unsult other music.
It one of the first signs of having a lack of musical skill.
If you want to make a parody, at least make sure that your
skills are better than the person you are trying to make fun
of. If that's not the case then I think the joke is very
weak and childish....


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-05-24 16:06 [#00233288]
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In my opinion it is far easier for some people to criticise,
than to actually praise someone. Maybe it a jealous
thing....their work/music is better than yours....I don't
know.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 16:08 [#00233291]
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yeah but I think only through certain criticism can people
better themselves...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 16:12 [#00233299]
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Constructive critism is fine, just shit like "your track
sucks..." is just menaingless....

But you're right...but it's a thin line between empty
critism and useful critism...


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-05-24 16:15 [#00233308]
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Absolutely, and as Jand says if it's constructive criticism,
then I agree. Otherwise it just insults!


 

offline Monumrnt from To (Canada) on 2002-05-24 16:15 [#00233310]
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"In my opinion it is far easier for some people to
criticise,
than to actually praise someone. Maybe it a jealous
thing....their work/music is better than yours....I don't
know.
"

TRUE, if someone has an idea what should be praised.
Therefore there must be a reason for criticising and
praising. Usually what is disfunctional or brings any form
of disfunctionality is not praised unless one is convinced
that doing the opposite is a correct thing to do.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 16:17 [#00233314]
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jand did you not get my email?


 


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