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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 21:43 [#00224033]
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hm, do you think that i'm a lame, when i make songs with other people samples ?
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windowlicker
from Nashvegas on 2002-05-17 21:43 [#00224034]
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yes
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zappafan
from Ronneby (Sweden) on 2002-05-17 21:44 [#00224035]
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Totaly yes....
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 21:44 [#00224037]
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well, I don't have a problem with that.. as long as you're original and not crap and stoof.. but..you're 98..and a.. a..nun.. Don't you think its time to take a step back and go, "whoa?! What am I doing, and where am I headed?!".
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-05-17 21:44 [#00224038]
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You are the very essence of a lame.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-05-17 21:45 [#00224042]
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Lame is your middle name .....
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 21:46 [#00224043]
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Excuse me boobie buster but you got blood all over my favourite microsoft shirt.. *Taps you on the shoulder* How are you going to compensate?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 21:47 [#00224045]
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punk : what do you mean with original ?
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 21:49 [#00224047]
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Original in terms of what you do.
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 21:49 [#00224049]
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I guess this is alien territory for you huh?
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 21:50 [#00224053]
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I'm sorry, I retract said comment and will hand you a lollipop. *Hands one over*
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 21:52 [#00224056]
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no sweets, i'm on diet
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 21:54 [#00224057]
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how do you define "original", i don't wan't to argue with you, only discuss bout that
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 21:54 [#00224059]
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Geez you're lamer then ME! *sucks lollipop* It was sugar free by the way.. heh heh (sucker!! Just like all those who bought XP!). *purrs evilly*
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 21:55 [#00224062]
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i have win98 my dear friend !
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 21:56 [#00224063]
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Well, if its recognised as original its described as such.. if its not worth listening to, it doesn't get listened to unless through some industry fluke which we seem to be having a lot these days.. Therefore the flukes are become normal and high standards are lowered and you have to be careful not to hit your groin on said lowered bar. *rants*
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 21:57 [#00224064]
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second edition !
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 21:57 [#00224065]
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Oh win 98 you say? Would you like Xp for just $320 dollars more? YES YOU WOULD BECAUSE ITS BETTER (and is basically the same..heh..heh..). *Shoves copy under your arm and hurries you to check out counter*
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 21:58 [#00224068]
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Anyway its kind of hard to define original. I've never heard your work but in terms of music, if it hasn't been done or if its not being approved, what's the point?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 21:59 [#00224070]
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how you see, i'm a newbee so, please forgive me god
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 22:11 [#00224088]
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see, i made soma small projects yet, ab it fake but, they where all made with other peoples samples. i don't have the time to make them myself
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-17 22:12 [#00224090]
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well foo to you. Buy some time.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 22:17 [#00224098]
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the last time, i had a kewl idea for a sample, my stairs outside the house are wonderful drums. but i don't have an idea how to record it :)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2002-05-17 22:19 [#00224102]
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i think that's it for tonite gentleman, maybe i should record myself snoring ? yeah...
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-05-17 22:33 [#00224116]
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You can't sample: James brown, herbie hancock, Isaac hayes, average white band, lou donaldson, parliment, bootsy collins, the police. these artists have already been heavily sampled. If you know an artist has sampled something and then you go and sample the same thing thats lame and unoriginal.
Also, in my opinion you shouldnt remix: Aphex twin, squarepusher, richard devine, etc. there music is complete there is nothing that you can do to an Aphex twin song to make it sound better. The point of a remix IMO is revise a song and implement changes that make it sound better than the original. Unless your aphex, squarepusher, luke vibert, or richard devine or someone that g00d your not worthy to remix them. APhex could remix squarepusher or vise versa, but if your just some joe with a computer i think its disrespectful to there music to even try to remix someone that good
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-05-17 22:37 [#00224118]
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Also, in my opinion YOU shouldnt remix:
This is off the topic and is NOT direct to YOU pesonnally. Its some what related because ive heard people say there remixing aphex on this site.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-05-17 22:39 [#00224121]
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(7\) ,Vibert and the pusher have used James Brown samples many times =)
disrespectful to there music??? Its tributes man !!! some of them are really good.
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-05-17 22:52 [#00224138]
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I know! i agree the thing is if Sadist sampled a James brown song NOW that has already been sample by someone else, it would be lame dont you agree, because hes such and obvious artist to sample and a hundered other artists have already been there done that.
Aphex probably did it a while ago when it wasnt so obvious and hes so damn good aphex is an exception he can sample anyone he wants at this point because he has proven his skill.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-17 22:55 [#00224142]
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I used to be anti sample. And then I realized that its a tradition in electronic music, it adds character to a song, and you can use the samples in ways the original artist wouldn't have thought.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-17 22:57 [#00224146]
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Its called being creative. There are plenty of uncreative artists out there that use only their own sounds.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-05-17 23:00 [#00224150]
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Drukqs is full of chopped up James loops , so is Go Plastic.
Yes its boring to hear the same samples over and over again with a few exceptions like Aphex.
Im sick to death of the Amen break for example.
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-05-17 23:01 [#00224151]
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I think it would be direspectful for an amateur to try to remix aphex, squarepusher, or richard devine. Because a lot of there music is really fast and dense.
For instance if i myself tryed to remix aphex or pusher or devine it could come out alright but i think it wouldn't be a good idea in the first place because there songs are really good and dont need to be remixed. and it would be direspecful for me to attempt the remix.
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-05-17 23:10 [#00224157]
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when i sample i try to find records that dont even have copywrite or a label like mca, columbia etc on the sleeve or record. Ive found some really rare obscure records, like the university Jazz lab band's record on the sleeve it doesnt even say unauthorized reproduction prohibited or anything like that and its not on any record label.
I guess that just my opinion. For me i wouldn't sample those popular artist because i feel its been done before too many times.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-17 23:48 [#00224195]
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as long as u use them in a creative fashion then i wouldnt consider it lame
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Beansprout
from United Kingdom on 2002-05-17 23:51 [#00224198]
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use anything and everything to make music as long as it sounds and feels right.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-18 00:23 [#00224238]
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Do WHATEVER you want, as long as you have fun and don't try to pimp it as much better or your own work. I'd love to hear more SP remixed, its amazing but he's done some far from inspiring music. Music is sound, sculpt the sound to create something original if you use other peoples stuff
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-18 00:23 [#00224239]
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agreed beansprout
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-18 00:25 [#00224244]
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in that case, forget everything i said. do what pleases you.
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Beansprout
from United Kingdom on 2002-05-18 00:25 [#00224245]
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the way i see it if your in a band and u do a cover of a few famous songs here and there. it doesnt mean your disrespecting them. same with making techno
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-05-18 00:30 [#00224251]
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Well, Ctrl Alt Del uses nothing else but pure Windows 2000 Professional, Red Hat 7.2, and MacOs 7.5-8.6 so ha!
As far as sampling goes, if your sampling to make mixes for like DJ albums (i.e. The Avalanches & The Wiseguys)then thats not lame, thats just pure fun mixing. But if you use samples to make music and rip the artist off like The Verve, Vanilla Ice, and Rob Base & DJ Ez Rock, then I banish you to the kingdom of lameness where you are certian to become king!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-18 00:31 [#00224253]
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though there are many techno remixes of good tracks that should NEVER have been made
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-18 00:32 [#00224255]
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yeah, when personal gain, whether monetary or not comes into it, thats when its bad IMO
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Beansprout
from United Kingdom on 2002-05-18 00:32 [#00224256]
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i use my mc307 groovebox and any weird shit i can find on the internet with fruityloopz. i forgot about those twats using sampling (was thinking more of a sitting around making music sence)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-05-18 00:37 [#00224261]
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osymyso is a genius and he samples whole songs
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