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offline chapman from United Kingdom on 2002-05-16 17:07 [#00222498]
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i personally think that Drukqs is hugely under-rated.

a lot of people say that its full of filler, and to some
extent that could be true, but it is all extremely good
music.

But after having listened to the album since it has been
around, i reckon that the drill and bass tracks (or whatever
the hell you wanna call them) are phenominal. i dont know
how anyone can say the album is not good.... if there is
anyone who doesn't like Drukqs id be greatful if you
could give a constructive explanation as to why


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-16 17:23 [#00222519]
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u say drukqs is under rated
under rated how?
do u perhaps know how many copies were sold?


 

offline chapman from United Kingdom on 2002-05-16 17:25 [#00222520]
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no idea on sales figures... but ive heard a LOT of people
commenting on it negatively


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-16 17:27 [#00222524]
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I think its underrated too....there's only about 4 track I
don't like


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-16 17:28 [#00222525]
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personally i think its great
u heard negative comments on this site?



 

offline chapman from United Kingdom on 2002-05-16 17:30 [#00222529]
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yeah i think so, a while ago, and on other mb's, and from
people, and from the media in general


 

offline MO2 from Minneapolis, MN (United States) on 2002-05-16 17:54 [#00222545]
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Yeah, everyone on this board seems to really love it....


 

offline jimisteel from SLC (United States) on 2002-05-16 17:55 [#00222546]
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It was mainly the music critics, like rollingstone gave it
one star, and some other magazines gave it bad reviews.
They were all more mainstream top 40 music mags. Im pretty
sure NME and others gave it a good review.
I think Drukqs is great i really like his piano works, fresh
very original, but with classical tradition.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-16 18:17 [#00222561]
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how can something be "very original" and "with classical
tradition"?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2002-05-16 18:43 [#00222570]
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cause its richard........

there were a lot of ppl on here dissin drukqs in a topic a
while back

a lot


 

offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-05-16 18:47 [#00222573]
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nme gave it 9/10 and i agree with this review..it's not
perfect but great ...yes


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-16 18:49 [#00222577]
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oh yes elusive....he's so magic; now get your nose out of
his arse


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-05-16 19:04 [#00222587]
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its crap
definitely the worst richard album to date...hes recycling
himself big time,and hes not even good at it..

take a break richard,and try to think a little bit before
you release something next time...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-16 19:06 [#00222590]
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well THAT was messianic


 

offline chapman from United Kingdom on 2002-05-16 19:06 [#00222591]
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Riccardo: why is it not perfect?

digital messiah: why is it crap?


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-16 19:08 [#00222594]
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someone today told me that they didnt like the "atmospheric
piano tracks".... i had to tell him wot i thort of that!!


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-16 19:34 [#00222632]
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1. come to daddy
2. richard d. james album
3. slected ambient works 85-92
4. drukqs
5. i care becuase you do

When I first heard drukqs I wasn't totally satisfied with
the album, but after listening to it alot i started to
really like it. But it's not as good as ctd, rdja and
saw85-92 imo as you can see


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-16 19:36 [#00222634]
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who is this richard d james character anyways? is he a
fictional character that mr twin really identifies with or
something? i've read 250,000 works of fiction and never came
across that particular character


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-16 20:37 [#00222760]
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marlowe: i think richard d james is that child in your
avatar.

digital messiah: you bore me to tears!


 

offline OK on 2002-05-16 20:47 [#00222788]
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druqks is like a bagdan album... but only perfect


 

offline SteveWardale from Lincoln (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-16 20:49 [#00222792]
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Drukqs is me fave album of his so far... it's got the most
songs on it that i like out of any of them. Something real
bad? Classics. Can't think of a single songs taht's good on
it. You know whats even worse? Polygon Window. All cheap
sounding and have no musicianship. But just about everything
else I have is perfection. Next stop: Mike and Rich...


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-16 20:51 [#00222793]
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i dig the polygon window album.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-16 20:54 [#00222797]
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that picture is of ME!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-16 20:54 [#00222799]
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i love the polygon window album too


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-16 21:11 [#00222830]
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Steve Wardale I agree, classics is really really fucking
bad!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-16 21:13 [#00222834]
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man classics is a GREAT album!!


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-16 21:22 [#00222838]
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frankly I don't tend to like music for its artistic value or
technical prowess, how "expensive" it sounds, whatever. I
just like music for its poetry, its ability to paint the
feeling, world, or image that it's attempting to portray.
and though I absolutely loathe a few tracks on drukQs,
there's some tracks that show total mastery in this
portrayal. drukQs also has this surreality to it that I
haven't heard on too many other releases by anyone,
except maybe Hangable Auto Bulb and SAW2
(though that's of a different type, I think.

so, yeah. I liked about half of drukQs. and that half was
very good.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-16 21:37 [#00222849]
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I think drukqs is the sound of AFX finally getting his
digital chops fully mature...it's easy to fall into the same
old territory of an analogue techno standard sound (like say
Boc)...major props to AFX for taking this genre further into
the phuture instead of looking back all the time....

What comes next for AFX?...I've no idea whatsoever...

& that's just the way I like it...



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-16 21:41 [#00222854]
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Drukqs is fucking amazing, my favorite electronic album...
there IS too much filler, though... I think it would have
been perfect chopped down to 76 minutes or something.

The hard tracks in particular are really amazing... and the
piano tracks are harmless and pleasant. The crap like Gwarek
and Lornaderek is what gets on my nerves!


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-16 22:02 [#00222876]
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I thought those were nice; they added a sort of cinematic
storyline to the album. I'm glad they didn't just attach
them to the end of songs though, since if you want to
appreciate Drukqs as strictly a piece of music and not a
story, then you can skip those. if Lornaderek weren't
directly in front of Penty Harmonium, I don't think its
emotional impact would have been as intense (I burst into
tears the first time I heard Penty Harmonium). so I think
they're important to the album.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-16 22:04 [#00222879]
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Not everyone loves it. I think its OK, but thats a stretch,
its not old nice AFX with more creation and imagination, it
was a let down to a long term afx fan like me, personally. I
think he could have done much better. It was pretty boring.


 

offline chapman from United Kingdom on 2002-05-16 22:22 [#00222898]
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i would say it is definately NOT boring


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-16 22:26 [#00222901]
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You burst into tears at Penty Harmonium? You pussy. :p Just
kidding.

But I never thought that track was too, err, overly
emotional or anything... and Lornaderek seems like pure
wanktitude, that crazy Richard and his mummy.

I agree with Chapman, it's ANYTHING but boring... there's so
much going on all over the place... I remember going through
the tracks when I first downloaded (evil grin) Drukqs, and
wondering what the fuck would happen next, what kind of
craziness the next track would be... I love it.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-16 22:34 [#00222909]
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but its my opinion. I think Drukqs is quite boring, I dont
listen to it .. hardly ever, so therefore its boring to me,
it doesnt interest me, so what if its crazy? Its not that
original and its not too exciting for me.


 

offline SteveWardale from Lincoln (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-16 22:36 [#00222912]
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Penty makes me think of Richard, sitting alone on his
Brithday, on the docks, playing an accordian to himself
whilst his parents have left him a message, only for him to
have not heard it (since his phones in that bloody basement
24/7) and pretty sad that he has noone to share his day
with. Even though it's a wind organ, not an accordian, but
still....


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-05-16 22:51 [#00222921]
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I thought drukqs was a major dissapointment, and every time
I sit and try to listen to it, I find it even more boring
than the last time.

I would rather sit and listen to BT for two hours than
Drukqs. Or froggy mix.


 


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