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offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-13 02:20 [#00217115]
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Hello, I am currently beginning a project to create my own
IDM/ambient music and am hoping to get some tips from those
of you that already do. I just got my hands on some software
called ReBirth, its basically like a mixing program with
hundreds of ways to change beat/rhythm/tone of a bunch of
presets, but it really doesn't give me that much freedom.
Anyone have any experience with this program? Or, what
software is useful, if any? Should I be using a synth with
some good hardware, or software, or a combination of the
two? I guess it probably depends on what type of music I
want to create, and that would be mostly ambient. I
appreciate any advice anyone has to give.


 

offline Spookyluke from United States on 2002-05-13 02:25 [#00217116]
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Get Fruity Loops, Buzz (http://www.buzzmachines.com),
Sawcutter, Hammerhead, Drumsynth, and any free audio
software you can.
I use a synth, roland jx-305, in addition to the above
software. I've done a good lot of ambient and some
industrial-drum-'n'-bass sorta stuff. And some downright
awful stuff, too. ;)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-13 02:34 [#00217124]
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cool, i figured I'd need a synth, are there any that are a
good balance between price and capability?


 

offline Spookyluke from United States on 2002-05-13 02:40 [#00217131]
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My synth I got used for $350.
It was probably stolen--plastic covers on all the keys.
I guess now Roland Jx-305s are around $500. It has a big
internal memory and is a sequencer and synth in one, takes
memory cards, full midi capability. It's everything but a
sampler!
That's where the PC comes in. :)



 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-13 19:40 [#00218162]
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awesome, i think I'll try to get a stolen one too ;)


 

offline dave from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-05-13 19:42 [#00218165]
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i just use fruity loops , it dose me well


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-13 19:47 [#00218167]
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i have special leads connected to pads on my brain the leads
go into a special box which spews out the music!!


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-13 19:50 [#00218168]
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damn, where would I get these, how you say, "special leads"?
;)


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-13 19:59 [#00218176]
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if you go the FM [hardware] route, pretty much any FM synth
(especially the TX81Z, which is what I have) is very cheap
and very capable. the problem after that is learning how to
use FM, as it is fairly complex and can be difficult to
learn - thus, the true price of potency.
on the other hand, if you choose to go the software route,
get as much free stuff as you can, as Spookyluke said.
there's some incredibly capable shareware and freeware out
there, notably (to me) Buzz and Audiomulch. if you want
something free that's extremely capable, try cSound.
however, cSound has, again with power versus difficulty of
use, a steep learning curve. if you are using a Mac, you can
also try MAX/MSP and Supercollider, though I haven't any
experience with them.

if you're going the cSound route, I'd also recommend you get
the cSound book. in fact, I recommend you get it anyway, as
it covers extensively sound design basics and then some.
whatever sound design software/hardware you use, you'll have
gained a much better understanding of how to make sound
electronically.

hope this helped. :)


 

offline Binaural Tea from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-05-13 20:02 [#00218178]
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fruityloops is cheddar. except for live situations. try
going out and record sounds and fück them the fâck up in
cool edit or soundforge or whatever.. ahh i should slam shut
me big mouth.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-13 20:05 [#00218180]
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Another TX81Z user! I love mine to bits, i've just enquired
about getting another one!


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-13 20:15 [#00218198]
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:-D hurrah! get 'em while they're cheap! I love mine too,
though it's often a love/hate relationship; I get so
exhausted from programming the beast at times. incredible
how analogue (with the right treatment) they can sound
though! only complaint I really have is the lack of
polyphony, but of course this can be overcome with a
sampler.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-13 20:46 [#00218261]
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yeah well lack of polyphony is the reason i'm getting
another

They do sound kinda analogue to me though...very BoC if you
want

I don't like programming from the synth but I find the
interface not that bad


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-13 20:48 [#00218265]
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there's an Atari ST program that makes the whole TX81Z
ordeal a bit more bearable. I can't remember the name, but
it worked remarkably well with an ST emulator on my PC.

methinks I'll go download it. I'll get back to you on that.


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-13 20:49 [#00218267]
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yeah BoC certainly comes to mind.

so does Autechre, if you're clever ;)


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-13 20:49 [#00218268]
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I use JSynth for it, its wicked


 

offline illfates from space (United States) on 2002-05-13 21:05 [#00218286]
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Serious and production level synth will all be produced in
VST environments or their brethren. Software such as
Cubase, Logic Audio, Protools, and Digital Performer will
blow fruity loops and even buzz right out of the water any
day.

VST4EVA!


 


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