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I just want to know what do guys who dont like the harsher end of IDM do when faced by the uncompromising end of their artists work..I mean almost half of each album by AFX,Squarepusher, Autechre, Plaid, u-ZIQ...is usually pretty crunchy, harsh and pounding,nosiy disturbing and other wise dark..more so with side projects like Caustic Window and Chaos A.D...so what is it..you program your players so that half or that whole part of the of the album is skipped.. I am just curious because you hardly ever hear people like me complaining about the sweeter gentler moments..infact most of the fans of the harsher end tend to love the albums in its entirety...but oh how the fans of softer stuff..go on and on and on moaning and complaining about Ventolin breaking the continuity of ICBYD..or Equation or the entirety of Confield and Go Plastic being filler.. maybe that explains the popularity of BoC...pablum tailor made for sinking into with nary an edge or challenge in sight.. |
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i like it all, it just matters what mood i'm in. if i want hard stuff, i listen to that. if i want soft silky pussy, i do it. |
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The heaviest IDM I have is probably Venetian Snares... of course there is always the gabba stuff like Alec Empire and Atari Teenage Riot |
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i totally agree with you...i constantly compian that the reflex stuff is too "sweet" and candy tasting...heh, infact that stuff is perfect for a bunch of lil' candy raver teeny-bopers... I dig some of the most harshest shit ever...and especially the harsh IDM stuff... |
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btw, i'm chilling to v snares right now...making orange things... |
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and speaking of v snares...does anyone have his newest cd? the one with all #'s as the title, and the melted toy phone on the cover? if you do contact me via soulseek, and we can set up a trade... |
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that's pretty much my attitude to music...but to me the album is the king and I feel that it is my responsibilty as a listener to listen to the album as and when the artist track listed the songs..because there's always a reason the songs are in the order the way they are arranged..I know it's a pretty kooky aproach to hearing music and that's why I always draw a blank when the threads with personal mixes and such come up..so when a soft tender mood strikes I will put on an album with higher melodic content..and if I wanna be beguiled and challenged I will put on an album with higher frequency of that kind of material...hence I remove the excuse to moan and complain from my self as far as V Snares goes I only have one album Dolls Dolls Dolls..I amyet to totally warm up to to it..it's got a lot of skill and craft but still leaves me a bit cold..like Amon Tobin does...I prefer the warmth and lunacy of Bogdan early albums..just as harsh as any V Snares but tempered with silliness and humour at this stage rather than the Psychosis embodied in Dolls Dolls Dolls..but when the mood strikes I think I will enjoy it...and the fans of V Snares might wanna check out Panacea..It's heavy coroded and messed up d'n'b(not German engineering though) but while VSnares veers towards the speedfreak drill Panacea slows down taking in a lot from Hip Hop only distorting it and amping it 100 times and then cutting it up and destroying it.. |
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its not that i dont like harsh stuff.. it really depends whose doing it... i mean, when autechre do it, i REALLY love it... when Squarepusher does it i hate it... i really think that when stuff gets harsh that it has too meet a higher standard of quality or it sounds like crap you know... ive been known too like some of my mates music, sepultura, fear factory, cradle of filth... and im really not into heavy metal at... but when its done damn well, then i like it but thats just me i can appreciate the harsh stuff, it just has too meet more criteria for me too like it a lot |
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MOOD DECIDES ALL! |
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lol! nice and simple.... the harder music you listen to the less of a "pussy" you are, right? |
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dude, what you're trying to say is that you really like limp bizkit and creed but that stuff just isn't credible so you have to listen to harsh 'idm' instead. |
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yeah, that's a pretty ignorant statement flea... and it's damn annoying... just because someone enjoys melodic and softer, less "harsh" music they are a pussy? Come on you stereotypical, ignorant fool... I enjoy Aphex Twin and Autechre across their wide spectrums of style... I do enjoy Ventolin more now, and I like most of the longer, and harsh songs on Drukqs... just because someone doesn't prefer harsh stuff doesn't make them a pussy... goodness, that's such an ignorant and stupid statement... |
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I like it all. But different songs go better with different moods. |
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Hey funkmaster, I wouldn't go so far as to say flea was trolling, but he was definitely laying the bait with a loaded topic title like that... I'm still waiting to see if my tastes mellow with age - they haven't yet! |
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personally it really depends on which mood i'm in. sometimes i want to hear softer sides of electronica (all the boc stuff, kleine, schnauss etc.) with all the mellow synth lines and dope beats. other times i really want to hear something that "hits". you know, really harsh, aggressive stuff with mental bpm's, like bogdan, snares hellfish etc. confield is really academically harsh :) still, i can see your point. the harsher stuff isn't everyone's cup of tea, so there will always be a certain degree of controversy around "harsh" tracks like those mentioned. hell, they're not harsh! harsh relative to saw85-92 maybe... |
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yes, it just depends on my mood... but, I'm overall a laid back relaxed guy, so I do prefer laid back, melodic music like BoC more... but I still like some harsh music, and basically any style of music... |
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flea: you know me man, im a fan of these aratists OLD shit, the ground breaking stuff where they didnt stick to the one style, AFX's old shit rules, ventolin is a masterpiece, the whole album is.. all the mixes, caustic window shit rules.... uziqs old shit rules too, same with squarepushers gritty old stuff..... |
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i love the contrast.... i love it on Drukqs with all the "harsh and crunchy" drum beats, and then the long smooth synth melodies in the background... it's so cool hav to admit, i'm got a soft spot for the softer songs (i love SAWII), but harsher ones are good foor going crazy too... lots of headaches from jumping around and breaking my neck! |
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e.g. i prefer the softer NIN songs to the heavier ones |
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i always preferred the heavier AFX to the pussy-side of mr james - but i like it CAUSTIC - drukqs just didn't hold a candle to CLASSICS,which i think is a better release -- i like the entire percussion section to be put thru an OVERDRiVE and fuzzed up good and proper. :) (funkmaster, did you ALWAYS sound like a tired 11 year-old, or is it a recent characteristic?) |
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what's that sweet nin track from the natural born killers soundtrack? absolutely beautiful, slow song from trent. |
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nothing on caustic comp can touch me the way the harder tracks on drukqs do. their just so straight. |
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marlowe: haha.. Drukqs has no real "caustic" or heavy side at all man.. no way.... Caustic Window, AB1, AB3, Ventolin.. thats where its at for hard AFX. Drukqs has nothing to Classics and all the such AFX style..... geez. |
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yeah sometimes i feel old because i got into AFX thru his hard stuff -- i thought that was all he did :) i would even class SAWII as his hardstuff -- i don't really take (that much) to works like SAW85-92. although i do love the RDJ album |
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marlowe: well yeah, I got into AFX appearently a long time before lots of people here because these people seem to think that Drukqs has a harder side! WHICH IT DOESNT. like what happened to talk of Classics, Ventolin and all the classic AFX old hard stuff? Now its Drukqs this and Drukqs that. |
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would you prefere that rich had never ventured outside of his roots? |
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I would have preffered he didnt release drukqs with the music style it is, what a dissapointment. |
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that isn't the message that comes across -- more that he feels, as i do, that the hard caustic side of AFX appears to be under-represented... |
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no, I just get annoyed by stupid ignorant people who feel that their view, and their likes and dislikes are superior to others... Oh, I like hardcore music, so I'm such a hardcore bitch, and anyone who doesn't like it is not as cool as me, and is a loser!!! It's attitudes like that that cause the prejudice that exists in this world, and the wars and all that crap... so, why don't you guys grow up, and get some sense huh? You might be older then me in years, but it doesn't seem like you are according to your maturity... |
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what the hell are you talking about? i don't believe i went off into a rant about anything -- an explaination, yes -- maybe when you grow up you'll discern the difference. who knows? plus, your sarcasm needs improving - it sounds far too contrived. some people here are obsessed with "cool" - is it some hidden inferiority complex -- no one mentioned COOL either here or on the DRUGS THREAD -- and yet.....suddenly you and others are bandying it about like i, or REFLEX, or FLEA have proclaimed ourselves the kings of cool -- i don't think misquoting (and thats being generous) is good, do you? maybe THAt's how a lot of prejudice is started in this world? just a thought... |
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ummm, what are YOU talking about? I was replying to your post where you asked whether I always sounded like a tired 11 year old, or if it was new... as if saying my reply to flea was done in an immature way... so, I explained my reasoning for my reply to flea... |
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I didn't say you went off on a rant... |
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then why did you come out on the defensive -- you sounded like a small kid, and i voiced my observation -- doesnt make me immature, so why go on about that along with other irrelevancies unmentioned? |
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i noticed in an earlier thread that someone said they were too much of a pussy too get into fleas harder music, flea went out of his way too say that he was not a pussy and that liking softer stuff didnt make you a pussy, so too conclude, "the pussy factor" is obviously a joke. and anyway, flea has a question that can be taken 2 ways, you can see what he means or you can take it personally and get insulted... so... chill brothers peace and ♥ |
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Well I wasn't refering to you... I was still refering to fleas post... it's a stupid thing to say that because of the music someone listens to they are a pussy... people who think that way need to grow up... |
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HE WAS BEING LIGHT-HEARTED! some people need to grow, or at least borrow, a sense of humour.... |
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yes, I figured it might be a joke... and if it is, then sorry to flea... but, stuff like that is pretty lame when it is meant... and I do get damn annoyed from stuff like that, because there is no need of it, it's just stupid... |
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when it comes to that kind of stuff, I don't have much of a sense of humour I'll admit... |
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chill funky, wheres the loveeeee man, this site is meant to be about male bonding right??? ...is it? |
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yeah I know... I get so defensive about that kind of stuff... sorry... :) |
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did someone mention male bondage??! :D |
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learn to let it slide bro... i learnt seen as i appear to be the only vocal nelly furtado fan at nin.com... oh the abuse... it actually gets amusing and i provoke it coz its funny... if people are ignorant, their problem, you know yourself what you like, thats all that matters. |
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*shush* dont scare him off, he's buying it |
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funkmaster...I really suggest you reread my two posts so far Ihave contributed to this thread..you may be talking this rather personally because of me calling you an Aphex Pussy a few with the most affectionate well intentioned humour..I apologize for that...but my point wasnt that in anyway that harsher music makes you cooler..I think the consensus have usually been exactly the opposite on this mb and in general..if you are into listening to creating or making harsher music you are automatically a bonehead or a hardcore idiot..and I am bloody tired of that ...my own music is repeatedly called not IDM..meaning not intelligent..which is okay the people have a right to their opinion..... my point was that the peoplewho are into the more melodic side are a lot more vocal about their disapporval of the harsher more difficult music put out by these artist that they and idolize than the other way around.. if that makes me ignorant..than doggone it lemme me go out and hunt some possums before I mount my underage cousin..YEEEHAAAWW |
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yeah, I over reacted a tad... sorry man... but like I said, I get just a bit defensive with that kinda stuff... :) |
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oh really..good.. NOW PISS OFF... I DONT HAVE THE TIME OR THE PATIENCE FOR MEWLING SNIVELLING TANTRUM TOSSING BRATS!!!! |
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*shrug* |
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lol... |
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hey can i mount your underage cousin too, flea??! |
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only if you ask real nice like... |
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