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Wouldn't the world be better off without the musicindustry? People could post MP3s to the internet if they want to spread their music and do concerts to earn money... Will it be the future? What's your opinion? |
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everything's all over the internet, but it's just harder to make a break... i think people need to give more honest feedback on other ppl + musicians should be quality of music, not their marketability. |
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the music industry seems focused on the multiple outlets to sell everything..tv, radio, internet, magazines, etc. Most bands do earn a lot of their money from touring, cuz the cd sales issue seems to put only a tiny amount of money in their pockets..i can't see the music industry ever stopping, there always has to be companies on top of things, but certainly wouldn't doubt that more bands will start running themselves, which would be a lot better, i think, i hope some of this made sense |
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my friend and i were just talking about this the other night we agreed that the fact that music IS an idustry ruins it record companies are businesses, their motivation is profit, they dont give a shit about the artists and their music without them, you could take money and greed out of the equation........ artists make the music they want to make without interference there would be no motivation except for wanted to make music cus u love it imagine all the new music you would hear of course there would still be a lot of crap music.... and a lot of artists would try to make their music to be popular, etc but it would probably be better off no record companies..... just free distribution on the internet and live shows of course there are all kinds of huge problems with the idea, so bring 'em on |
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But maybe internet can be the only one thing that big companies cannot control no mather how much they try. I hope so. |
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people worrying about copywrite would be a big issue... just like they worried when tapes were introduced! in ur world of music wud there still be cds, vinyls and music shops? |
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I download more "amateur" than professional stuff nowadays. |
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internet = totally uncensored, unruled... right? |
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What do you think of warp trying to make soulseek filter all warptracks? |
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are they??? I didn't know that.... |
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THEY'RE NOT SERIOUSLY DOING THAT, ARE THEY?!!!!!!?!?!?!??!!? AHH!!!!!!!! ........they'd better not maybe.. (in this world w/out record compaines)... people could send their music to some place and have it put on CD/Vinyl w/ cover art etc... but the company would have NO financial stake in the music, so it couldn't interfere then they just make as many records as are ordered this way it would be really expensive but u could still have records but u would really rarely actually buy one it would be a big special event most money for the artist would come from live shows |
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i thought about blowing up the '99 mtv vma's. that would have been so fucking cool can you imagine all those shit artists and execs just fucking gone in the blink of an eye. no more dinosaurs! |
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If you think about money as logically as possible, as a medium of exchange, you respect it more maybe. It's better than exchanging 1/8 of a cow for like 2 cd's or something. Art and money don't mix well I guess. The latter warps the former. |
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I agree that there are plenty of bad points to the music industry... and everyone says that Marketing is a bad thing... but really, why is that? Marketing is an attempt to sell a product, and in the case of music, it would be a cd... doesn't the artist want to make money from the cd they worked so hard to make? So what if the artist is jumbled into a certain genre so he/she/they can be marketed to a group of people... if the people buy the cd and hear the music, isn't that the important thing? I have to defend marketing, cause it'll probably be my profession in a few years... :) |
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I would agree that when label executives pressure artists to produce radio friendly material that it is a bad thing... but I'm of the opinion that once the music is made, who cares how it is marketed? If artists have artistic freedom then do whatever you can to sell it I say... |
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i think warp SHOULD get soulseek to filter all warp tracks. you guys abuse the system. i can excuse you ripping off the major labels but the cats at warp don't make fuckin' squat. not just the artists (trust me, you'd be ashamed of yourselves if you knew how many actual copies of the albums have been sold), but the staff. and without the staff you wouldn't have the music to listen to. so pay some respect and pay some fuckin' money, especially you rich motherfuckers. if you can afford a computer you can afford to buy 10 cd's. gotdamn. |
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i download tonnes of warp shit off soulseek... but i still buy whats good, and im going to buy more w/ time, as i make money im actually probably going to be spending the huge majority of the money i make at my job on music but the point is i wouldn't have ever even gotten into this music in the first place if it wasn't for soulseek (and similar apps) if i wasn't able to d/l tonnes of afx, squarepusher, etc, i would never have been able to realize how much i love this music, and i wouldn't be buying the CDs now and IF i somehow got into it without file sharing (without hearing any of it?!?!)... i would have wasted tonnes of money on shit before finding the good stuff |
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Cheap asses. Support the fucking artists. |
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I think it's important that artists can make a living on their art alone. I want the artists I love to be able to put as much of their time and energy into their art. The music industry as we know, however, will become extinct. Eventually, an artist controlled industry will arise and their won't be the gap between what an album sells for and what an artist gets that exists right now. Whether it will be a long and slow process or a catastrophic event I don't know. |
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hence: the more free time these artists have on thier hands (and dont have to have a job tying up most of the day) the more songs they can produce. |
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About Warp and buying versus downloading, I wouldn't buy any more cds if I couldn't download tracks than I do now. Soulseek and other filesharing systems don't cause me to buy less, they cause me to have more. I don't like having mp3 quality music, but I'll download if I can't afford a cd. There's also a lot of albums that I bought that I wouldn't have had I not encountered them on Slsk. |
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exactly |
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if i was on a record lable i wouldent care if people downloaded my stuff, infact i think it would help because people would become more fond of the music |
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A Minal and jupitah: i was calling SOME of the board irresponsible for not buying cd's (or vinyl, whatever) by the artists they love so much. there are SO many people like that on this board, it's sickening. to clarify, i'm not ignorant on the whole mp3 tip - you're talking to someone who has 40gb of mp3's on his hard drive. point is, i buy whatever i get into (i have something like 700+ cd's and about 10 of those are cd-r's). i know p2p apps are a great tool for marketing (exposing people to music), but at the same time i think more people are downloading and NOT buying the music instead of downloading it and THEN buying it after they realize how much they like it. i don't condone that. if people are going to be pirates then they should lose their priveledges. |
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Couldn't agree more. We got to support eachother. Music is support to me and so I return the support by buying music. |
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well said. |
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couldn't agree more....it's so important to buy CD's for artists like Aphex, BoC, Godspeed you Black Emperor, etc...who are fantastic artists and are not selling gagillions of CD's....i listen to mp3's but i buy the REAL mccoy because i want the real mccoy...ehhehe gotta have the lil booklets that come with the CD's....=0) |
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yeah...windowlicker basically said what i was going to... most artists dont release their music just so people can hear it...they release it so they can make a living out of making it...so if they cant make any money by releasing it...they wont release it anymore...theyll have to get real jobs and make music as a hobby |
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But think about it. I enjoy buying CDs by artists I really like, its true... I do it all the time. But in all honesty if their not on an independant album, they dont really lose out. If you look at statistics not just big bands, but the majority of all artists, that have mp3s floating around arent losing out on money. I usually only NEED to buy Cds of artists that are independant.... like The Shizit. The music industry is pretty fucked in the head, but what did anyone expect? |
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I think that one day amateurs will take over the electronic musicscene. The difference between amateurs and professionals is getting smaller all the time. And I'm affraid that Warp will not survive much longer now that Aphex Twin has left the label... |
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half the time the shit i download is of shitty quality; glitchy scratchy. i mostly only download stuff i would not have bought anyway. and if i like it i might buy the next album by that artist. some musicians are artists and some are manufacturers of a product. as long as it keeps making money, the products will be for sale. i wouldn't say its ruining music because there is still good music out there. you just have to look in the right places. You wouldn't expect good wine to come out of a box; you should treat music the same way. |
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