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What should or does the American Flag represent to you? |
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America.... blood, sweat and tears baby! |
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A big rock after loads of water :) Oh, this one is for americans... |
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american flag = capitalism * good or bad... those fucks who thought that it would be good to make things so fucking huge were dumb. i like the freedom of speech & arms concept though :) |
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america! love it or hate it, and if you hate it, we'll occupy your country! |
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i was so surprised to see so much american advertising over in paris & london when i was there last month. |
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I like this flag --> |
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i was just watching Apollo 13, american patriotism if sooooooo funny! and the end of every american film theres a room full of people who after a tense minute suddnely embrace each other and shout "we did it! we did it for america! god bless america!!!" then again patriotism of any country is really funny i find. |
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really? you shouldnt be...i think we even have advertising in afghanistan.. |
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'woohoo! yeah! all right! america's great!' |
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*linches you, then sues you for stress, and hurting my knuckles on your face, and midsection* :) |
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I answered this last time you asked. The short story is, fuck national pride, were all together in the end. |
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nobody can see the hand in front of their fucking faces in this world right now just wait untill space aliens land here and kill most of us and make the rest of us slaves, gee, i guess that would be kinda like what happened to the native americans. |
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in fact, that is exactly what inspired H.G. Wells to write the book War of the Worlds |
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maybe because i read that book before i was even in double digits (10+ years old) the idea got planted in my subconcience... |
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The American flag represents friendly fire! Those poor Canadian soldiers. I heard US friendly fire was responsible for about 40% of all of their own casualties in the Nam and half in the Gulf... yikes... |
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but they 'died for a noble cause' or something...that's what they said on tv ugh |
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ophecks, and that would be like 1 kill or something? |
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idiots. |
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nah cos their surface to AIR missiles hit TRUCKS full of british soldiers and stuff and an ammo dump got blown up or something and killed some peeps. american flag is a red, white and blue "fuck you" to common sense, compassion, liberalism, awareness, accountability and responsability... |
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shut up. Ignorant fuck. |
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open your fucking eyes mate, i don't see metal detectors in our schools, we never invaded grenada because of an error in paperwork, i don't bomb the haitians, i don't supress the teaching of evolution, there isn't any kkk where i live, we've never used a nuclear bomb on anyone, especially not on a civilian population: we take care of our poor, we take care of our sick, we take care of our old, we try to look at consequence before acting, we respect the environment, we have history and culture, we did not use slavery and discrimination to get ahead in the world and when we have been wrong we were not proud, and by we i mean most of the world outside of america (canadians, japanese, europeans, the third world under the US boot etc back me up here) we are far from perfect i am not proud to be british, but i am proud to not be american |
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alrighty. |
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Yea, I am aware of these things.. but compare the populations also. |
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Windowlicker is right. Larger populations have more of a chance for chaos. Also, the UK has done their share of bad deeds. Just take a look at their imperialism of the past. Robbing lands and colonizing countries such as America. And lets not forget Tony Blair. |
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i have to agree with jingle here all the stuff he said was spot on im not proud to be canadian (yes i know everyones done bad stuff)..... ...but i'm glad im not american (i wouldn't go so far as pride.. but im glad, yes) and i dont mean american people (cus individuals are stupid no matter where u are on this planet).... but i mean american culture, mentality, values, and policy so dont get me wrong i dont have a problem with americans.... just america |
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You're getting me quite down jingle. Who's gonna give me the answer? There isn't an easy answer. I'm going to live my life according to my ideals, be open about my opposition to the shit that is my country's mentality and vote in the best direction for whatever that's worth. Given the opportunity to do something signifaicant I will, but I couldn't imagine what that would be at this point. |
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right on jingle flag: not much except for a political and military "restrenged" soon an geographical when usa will come and force themself upon canada natural resource (water coz they dont have much for their pop. they will take it by force you will see) death in wars: no doubt there is deaths of canadian and other allied and more than 1 kill (media wont show everything they cant get all of the truth) |
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This is so intresting....im taking notes. Just guess what the minorities thinks about the flag??? |
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To me it represents greed, slavery, and bondage. It represents stolen wealth. It represents a great lie that has been told and made to look good. It represents a pirate economy and nation. Capitalism etc But still I love the americans, no doubt. I got much love for the people of america but not for the leaders of USA. |
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i understand that, but there is no strict separation between the people and their leaders. at least america is proud it's political system and it's constructed in a way that they could get rid of their leaders if they wanted. the problem here and there is that people are pretty lazy when it comes to using their heads |
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yes, i agree, archrival. the leaders are predominantly responsible for the nation's faults, not the people. |
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nope, i don't think so; people have the power (but not the will) to get rid of their government. if they don't they're guilty as well. (+this is not only true for america),i mean you don't have a dictatorship (no offense pachi) |
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Cheffe 1979: Are u dumb, deaf and BLIND!!?!?!? U seem pretty ignorant. "people have the power (but not the will) to get rid of their government. if they don't they're guilty as well" THIS WAS JUST STUPID!!!!!!! Are u retarded or something?!?! |
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cool down please. in a democracy people not only have rights but also duties. that's what i wanted to say. we have the same problem over here, people don't see what their leaders are doing, they don't even really care. i didn't mean to offend you, ok? |
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i mean we do not even disagree, we got just different opinions about whose fault it is |
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greed. definately--- |
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yes...in a true democracy...the people do have the power to change their government...but...as our last election has shown us...we do not live in a complete democracy... |
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greed indeed...ah hell i cant think of anything else that rhymes... well..thats it for me...im going to bed now... |
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jesus archrival, calm down, at least give some kind of argument instead of just laying into him |
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where you've got big businesses funding political parties (like enron did and other oil companies for bush) you are never going to have a true democracy. Its the people on the top rung of america that are getting away with it all, its like white collar crime on a grand scale. it is the minorities in the ghetto's that get fucked and then get moral's rammed down their throats. the american 'pride' in my opinion is just the attempted subordination of the people |
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Ok, I just got pissed because Cheffe sounded like he now shit about the projects and hes from fucking Austria :( Like, oh its just the peoples fault, NO NO NO its more complicated than that.... U think people wanna be in situations like that!?!?!?!?!? PLEASE! |
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Cheffe: With comments like that I bet u voted for Scrhoder or whatever hes called. |
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B3n: I dont need any arguments to answer stupid stuff like that, the situation in the world speaks fo itself. |
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Yeah sure, you feel strongly about this issue, but I think you were just a bit too aggressive thats all :/ |
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freedom |
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Ok I apologize, I was too aggresive but as u said I feel strongly for this issue. But I wont post on this forum anymore when it comes to politic, I just get pissed, theres other great forums for this type of very importnant stuff LEts discuss ASTROBOTNIA insted ;) |
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yeah right archrival, we've all said that. I said that when an american told me on the influx list the US invented democracy, haha I can't resist political debates, I actually enjoy them too much |
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