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nooo this is pretty fucked if i were her mom i would cut that guy's cock off (and stuff it in my mouth...) |
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Well I *blame* the mother...what kind of person would let their daughter sign up to something like that? Of course its a veritable paedo fest! Ofcourse he shouldn't have shagged the girl, that'd help too |
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ahaha, america's news is REALLY highbrow.. Top News Current Events Plane crash in Milan was pilot's suicide New Legal Action Started To Prove Diana and Dodi Were Murdered Husband and Wife Teachers Jailed over Student Sex 10-yr Old Girl Impregnated by 75-yr Old Man - Wants To Keep Baby Man Pulverised In Jet Engine Horror |
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Like the people that read it... :) |
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That's stupid, who would choose a total stranger as a godfather, esp. a known sex offender... |
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yeah but that doesn't justify it |
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hah, I remember when they had the paedophile witchhunts here and paediotricians got beaten up |
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i didnt even know itwas possible for 10 or 75 year olds to have children! it boggles the mind |
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Men can at any age. Some girls can from about 7 onwards... |
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when she gets pregnant shes gonna stand out a Lot in school... |
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there was a guy who used to go into a shop near hear and jerk off into towels in front of kids, needless to say he was banned |
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All paedophiles shout be castrated in whatever local city centre they live nearest. They're bloody everywhere these days. |
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the old man in the news wasnt a paedophile..mabey they were in love...would that make it right? |
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The problem with any "barbaric" punishment is what if the person is innocent? At least if someone is locked up then found innocent they can be released. If you cut of their hands then find they didn't steal bread you're fucked. |
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Maybe they always have been everywhere...its probably only just come to public attention recently |
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that man ought to have his balls layed up on a curb and than stomped on. |
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it wouldn't make it right i think.. an 10year old girl just cant b in love w/ an 75 year old guy that aint right... |
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"What if the person is innocent?".... If society were to get used to such as 'harsh punishment system..' then we wouldn't have so many 'terrible' crimes committed. Granted the fact that someone gets jailed for the wrong reason, is a shame, but just think of it as 'casualties of war' |
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Nah, it's putting people away unjustly etc. that turns the majority of law abidding citizens against the police. |
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Then you simply have to keep 'upping' the severity of the law...until you get the respect that the 'state' is due!! |
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Punishment for crimes doesn't work. America has the highest incarcerated population in the world (per head of population) and the UK has the highest in Europe, yet we see no reduction in crime. Its an ambulance at the bottom of a cliff; an amulance with flat tyres and no paramedics. |
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How many prisons in japan? Hardly any. Crime? Aside from Yakuza and youth crime (which they DO grow out of) there is very little crime. |
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The problem is Jonesy, they don't have enough executions though! If they made more of thing about it, I'm sure the message would get through. They could have executions on game shows - only in America!! |
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The source of crime is the disparity of wealth (which in this country is the biggest since the late 19th Century), poverty, social deprivation, high unemployment. It isn't 'evil' or bad parenting or any other right wing target. |
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Crime is wrong, and the punishment should fit the bill. Its as simple as that. I personally think that there needs to be a radical shake up of the judicial system. |
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Is it wrong to steal if you can't afford to feed your kids? |
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I think you need to: A) Leave white collar criminals alone, they're just clever. B) Lock up criminal scum that perpetrate violence and vandalism and physical theft. |
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I think kids are ultimately a luxury and you shouldn't choose to have them if you can't afford it. |
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Yes - crime is wrong full stop! |
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People who claim benefits in society should be prevented from having kids! They should have to have 'contraceptive injections' in exchange for their benefits.. |
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or the Social Services should take their kids off them, if they cannot afford to look after there kids welfare! |
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Put Oestrogen in Gibby's water supply :) |
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mind if I join the discussion? With my terrible opinions. The punishment is hardly what our societies should consider. "Punishment" is outdated as a concept, just another term for vengeance, besides it does not help reduce the crime rate: in some islamic countries, people cheating on their partners are publicly stoned but people still do it. My point is: people don't think they'll be caught and prosecuted at the time of their act, otherwise they wouldn't do it. Therefore: 3 or 20 years of incarceration for rape makes no difference. And castration is a ridiculous measure IMO, it is not the penis who does the act, it is the person. If you want to cleanyour community, don't fight the effects, fight the causes: in this case locking somebody away or executing them is more paractical. |
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You two are wind-up merchants of the highest fucking order. You can't take your view by looking at Gibby. That place is a whole different ball game. Its not even a part of human society. |
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When you say punishment is an outdated concept, then maybe it needs to be brought back. I disagree about when you mentioned rape. The rapist should have his penis cut off because then he won't be able to commit the offense again. So many devients in this country are let out of prison and they re-offend in society. |
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Ceri suggested Gibby not me. I'd see my idealism enforced right across the country if it were up to me....not just Gibbonsdown. You are right though....about them not being part of human society. The estate should be nuked - problem solved! ;) |
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if i were that girls dad i would beat the old man with a sock full of quarters |
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I disagree, I think we should be doing more to stop white collar crime |
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The point is to prevent crime, not punish the offender afterwards. If we take out of the equation the reasons why people commit crime we can begin to tackle the problem. Read this http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/1794/sw179413.htm |
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Yes Jonesy, but we are at a point in time where it is too late to prevent crime. We live in a crime-riddled society. And that society needs to be eliminated! |
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Chris, i like you on the grounds of your posts that I've read before and think of you in the best of terms but I can't disagree with you more on this. First off, the concept of punishment has to do with issues of power and hierarchy and it's not designated to improve the society living standards but to support existing hierarchies (hopefully, this doesn't sound too confusing). read Foucault's "Too oversee and to Punish" (I'm sure it's translated differently but this is the best i could do), And, secondly, seeing a penis as bringer of evil in this case just means that you are wasting time with details. It is somebody's "evil" nature that is "evil", not a part of their body. Rape has more to do with issues of property than with sex per se, this is where you have to act. Otherwise you're just curing symptomes instead of curing the disease itself. |
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Yes, but if you deal with the rapist in a 'specific' way - them he is not able to 'rape' again! What else would you suggest? |
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Yeah, and cutting thieve's hand off will prevent them from stealing, right? Come on, castrating somebody and then releasing them to continue being a part of society just creates more antisocial behaviour. It is healthier to just kill them. But you should in the first place try to prevent rape by changing the way people think of other people, which is of course a long shot. Bottom line is: you can aways inflict damage on others if you have an antisocial mind, you don't need penis or hands to do that. |
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Healthier for who? When you say they are released into society. They should be allowed to spend the rest of their lives shamed for what they have done. A man walking down the street without a hand...would be almost immediately identified as a thief! |
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Man, really try to find that book i recommended as it'll provide you with far better explanations than these confused barblings I give you: So, you think that stigmatizing people in their community would be healthy for that community? Yout think that people should be ruled by fear and shame? Not my idea of healthy relations in a community. |
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Its translated as Discipline and Punish over here. Like most books, I failed to read it at university. The panoptican right? I agree totally that the punishment of crime serves to maintain existing relations of power and property. Corporate crime goes unpunished and wreaks more havoc than petty prole crime. What i meant was that until the relations of production change we will continue to have people driven to crime. |
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Then maybe to execute them would be better then... |
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Thanks jonesy, and yes, panopticon, the very theme of that Coldcut song. I second your opinion in the second part of your post. |
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Oh, uh, yes, that's what I thought, i mean if you think somebody is beyond resocialisation, why keep them a part of society? Lock up for good, send em to another planet or execute. Be practical |
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