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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-19 02:30 [#00183485]
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ok, so one complaint about drukqs is that it sounded like a bunch of unrelated tracks just sitting around on his hard drive, thrown together onto a CD
so, do you think it works well together as an album?
do u think he really did just take a bunch of tracks and throw them together, or actually plan it out as a real album?
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RobinsAlter-Ego
from a suburban hellhole (United States) on 2002-04-19 02:34 [#00183488]
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I personally think the chaotic nature of the track arrangement added to the overall theme. I mean, think about it, we've got emotional piano tracks (nanou2), harcore drillnbass (st michaels mount), and "other" (gwarek2). A garden variety of extremes, thats Rich for ya.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-04-19 02:34 [#00183489]
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you know, I've been thinking, has anyone else noticed how the first song can make or break a cd to a certain extent? If the song is excellent then I find I like the cd usually, but if the song sucks, no matter how excellent the other songs are, the first one kinda ruins the rest of the cd for me... my point is that the order of an album has really come into view for me as an important fascit of the listening experience, and so with Drukqs, I must say I haven't listened to it in ages, even though some of the songs are so damn excellent... it's the order I think... the first two songs of the album don't do that much for me, and I think it ruins the album for me...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-04-19 02:35 [#00183493]
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and plus the order of the songs is just so all over the place... it's way too chaotic...
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RobinsAlter-Ego
from a suburban hellhole (United States) on 2002-04-19 02:36 [#00183496]
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yeah, totally. luckily, all my favorite cds have had relatively enjoyable first tracks. sometimes if the cd is REALLY good, but has a shitastic first track, i can convince myself i like it just so i can enjoy the rest of the cd.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-04-19 02:37 [#00183500]
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he actually said in an interview that he spent quite a bit of time on the track order on drukqs...more so than his other albums even
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-04-19 02:38 [#00183502]
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not even the first one all the time, just a really bad song mixed in with a load of excellent ones... ICBYD is such a perfect example... Ventolin is his worst song in my opinion, yet it is on what would be his best cd in my opinion if it wasn't on it... it kinda ruins the whole album for me...
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-04-19 02:38 [#00183503]
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r u INSANE funkmaster?!? you MUST be, cus ur opinion is different than mine!
for me, the first two tracks, TOGEThER (ie listened one after the other) are probably my favourite part of drukqs!
the first one is so cool.. its always stuck in my head but whats ingenious is the way it sets u up for number 2... sort of leads up to it, preparing for it
then at the end of #1, hes got u right where he wants you...
...then when track 2 explodes out at you.. incredible!
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-04-19 02:43 [#00183513]
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yeah...my favorite cds always seem to have a really good first and last track..
though i think a really good last track is more important...i tend to lose interest in cds that start strong and just sort of trail off into an ending
if i like a cd that doesnt have a good final track...but a really good one in the middle...ill often stop it there...like the rdj album ends for me at logan rock witch (since before i realized that was the intended ending..without the girl/boy ep stuff) and i usually stop squarpusher's miron after my sound...the songs after it dont really fit with the rest of the album, in my opinion
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-04-19 02:46 [#00183516]
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They're alright man, but don't do that much for me...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-19 03:19 [#00183542]
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The thing about Drukqs I like is how disorganized and slapped together it is... even the tracks. If they were physical things, they'd be hideous machines with losts of moving parts made of various things and shit, collected from junkyards and the like. Not smooth and sleek stuff like Go Plastic. Everyone thing sounds so perfectly produced, every percussive sound and bassy boom. Drukqs is just madness... I don't care what anyone says, there's little signifigance in the track listing, other than hard/soft/hard/weird etc.
Jynkwenyth leading into Vordhosbn is just amazing, too...
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-19 03:36 [#00183555]
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Welcome to drukqs topic #3033031.5
I'd agree w/ ophecks about the disorganization, i mean it goes from piano to drill&bass so rapidly...which is kinda cool. It's such a manic album.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-04-19 03:43 [#00183563]
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exactly and that's what we should expect from rich, that's what i like in his music : he don't give a shit...
you have to view it like he said in interview, you have a doubleCD full of tracks, some you like some you dislike and now you make a compilaation from it that suit you, it's really a good concept for me!
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-04-19 04:18 [#00183599]
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I think the best thing about Drukqs is how it starts scattered but does progress toward more order, I think. Starting with Taking Control I think everything begins to blend better!
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2002-04-19 04:26 [#00183609]
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AMinal:
I believe that *even though the track listing might not be "regular"* ... someone else said it best... "it's chaotic"... well shit, from chaos comes simplicity.
I look at Drukqs as being one of Rich's most EASIEST albums to listen to, because it's such a GREAT mix of his style that a 1st time listener could understand why Rich came out with previous releases & that he will still continue to push the limits after this album.
I don't think it's bad for RDJ to put out a simple album like Drukqs, I mean, good lord, I started listening to the RDJ Album again & haven't put it down for 3 weeks now. Every artist needs a simpler kind of life, when every artist reaches that point could be completely different from when they expected.
Did I make any sense? I hope so.
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-04-19 08:35 [#00183879]
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i think that drukqs was very well made and that it is a very tight album. i really dont think that they were tracks that were just laying around. i think drukqs was very well made and each track is nothing short of amazing.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-04-19 10:09 [#00183976]
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Oops, I put the best track at the end of my CD :( perhaps I should change the order...
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